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Rest in Peace
United States
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Goes it look like bright yellow gold, or like the pix?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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When in light, yes it flashes like real gold but not like new gold more old as if passed around a lot and there is no damage just a bit of wear.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Time to get it weighed, measure the dimeter and estimate the thickness!
Then have the effort demolished because it happens to be only 9ct gold or less! 9ct gold only has a density of about 13 gms / cc, pure gold 19.7 gms / cc.
If it is plated, the base metal should show through at the rims. As your handle suggests, a 10xloupe would be useful for this.
I would lend you mine, (I am a gem facetor), except that I live in the wrong Country to you!
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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I posted this because I wanted to know if anyone saw this token before and knows for how much it sold for, I can always do the gold calculations myself.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It appears to be dated, but I don't have a Standard Catalog with the various numbering systems handy.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12437 Posts |
The black spots are a strong indicator that it is not gold as gold does not tarnish or corrode.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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I'm just asking for what they sell for, I will check if its gold after.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Do you not think that the question of "Is it gold or not" might have some bearing on the price?
I don't think it's gold either by the way - It looks like a brass token - and I suspect ofminimal value
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Okay then, how much do the GOLD tokens sell for ?
I'm sorry if I sound a bit offensive, its just that I don't have that much time and money for experiments, I just want a price, not a long discussion.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The reason I asked about the other side of the coin is that I thought I saw another one at my favorite local coin ship. I went and looked but it was not your token, although it looked similar, (and it was silver).
I would guess that the reason everyone is asking if it is gold is that it's value is as gold and there is little numismatic value beyond that.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
1610 Posts |
So if its around 10k and weighs 2 grams, it must be around 44$ worth, but if I find a date and some history behind it, it could sell twice as much..Thanks, but I am still looking for someone who has seen one being sold at a shop or on the internet.
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Moderator
 Australia
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OK, now that we know exactly what it is - an Iranian Nowruz (New Year) token - we can look for examples elsewhere. There are nine Nowruz tokens on zeno.ru. Two of them, this one and this one, have exactly the same design as yours; both of those are brass. None of the examples on zeno.ru are gold. This one is a similar design in silver, and is dated 1339 (AD 1960). Now let's look on ebay. This one is a silver example, not too dissimilar to a couple on zeno.ru, for sale for Can$12. This guy has got at least three of these rooster ones, for sale for $11; those same tokens seem to be all over the Internet if you do a Google search for "nowruz tokens". Unfortunately, nobody seems to be selling brass ones, and the only evidence I can find that solid gold ones actually exist is in this 1995 Stephen Album auction pdf, scroll down to lot 483, estimate $5. Unfortunately, no pic. Given the similarity in design with the brass ones on zeno.ru, I suspect yours is brass, too, and would be worth less than these silver ones. However, if you can prove it's solid gold, then we're talking bullion value. I doubt it would be worth more than that. All of the dated tokens I could find seem to date from the 1950s or 1960s; dating the tokens may have been just a passing fad back then. I also suspect that the ones with dates on them are more "historic" and perhaps more meaningful to some people (who might have been born that year, for example) than generic pieces without a date.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
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Okay,thanks everyone for your help.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Sorry the news wasn't better.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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That's okay, I believe I can still make a profit from what I paid for it.
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