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Valued Member
United States
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WOW! That is quite a difference. If I may ask, Is it expensive to have done?
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Moderator
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Originally posted by SE
WOW! That is quite a difference. If I may ask, Is it expensive to have done?
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New Member
United States
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Did they grade it? And if so, did the grade improve?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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SuperDave, actually I think you are going to be surprised with the bill you have, I was very surprised but still want to get that other situation straight
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Originally posted by SoHumble
Did they grade it? And if so, did the grade improve?
Grade stayed the same but eye appeal tripled |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
577 Posts |
Wow that is a beaautiful coin! How do they go about 'cleaning' these coins?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
891 Posts |
That's nice. they did a bangup job. Does the holder say NCS on it? If so do you think that if you were to take it out of the holder and resubmit it that the grading company would be able to tell if it was conserved?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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no, NCS conserved it and then sent it to NGC for grading
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Member
United States
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I wish I could get my pictures to look them Bryan!!!
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Valued Member
United States
223 Posts |
Bryan, when you sent the coin to NCS was it encapsuled? Does NCS send the prior grade to NGC? In my opinion, just eye appeal should have raised it another grade higher.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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yes it was encapsulated when sent to NCS and they say they do not give the graders prior knowledge of the grade just as they say the graders do not know what the grade was in a crossover submission, I question both scenarios. They say a crossover is evaluated in a specific room with a grader in there and if they think it will cross they will crack it out and send it to the other graders just like any raw submission with no knowledge that the coin was even in a slab when it arrived. I feel they are probably correct in the one grader checks and cracks the coin out if they feel it will cross, but I also believe that they write something down on the papers they have to fill out to get it to the next level that may let the graders know what grade it was before, the reason I feel this way is I have never once heard of them cracking a coin out (that was a cross only at this specific grade or higher) and the other graders say they made a mistake when they cracked it out because its actually a lower grade. What are the chances 4 graders (1 in the crackout room and 3 graders in the grading room) are going to agree 100% of the time, I just dont see it hapening
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Valued Member
United States
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So if any of us clean a coin it's "Cleaned", but if NCS does it, it's conserved? wow
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Originally posted by RangerXLT8
So if any of us clean a coin it's "Cleaned", but if NCS does it, it's conserved? wow
Basically that's it, but if you know what you're doing you can clean coins all day and they will slab. Trust me on this one.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Originally posted by RangerXLT8
So if any of us clean a coin it's "Cleaned", but if NCS does it, it's conserved? wow
Big difference between cleaning and conserving. Think about it in terms of art- you could clean an old oil painting with soap and water to brighten it up, but it wouldnt look natural. Give that same painting to a conservator at the NY Met Art Museum and he will make it look like it was painted yesterday. That is what NCS does, restores a coin to as close to original as they can get and they are professionals with many years of experience doing it. http://www.ncscoin.com/faqs.asp How does Professional Numismatic Conservation differ from restoration and "Coin Doctoring"? Numismatic conservation involves examination, scientific analysis, and reliance upon an extensive base of numismatic knowledge to determine the nature of a coin's state of preservation and the extent of any damage. Conservation also encompasses appropriate procedures to protect the coin's original appearance and to guard against future deterioration to whatever extent possible. Professional conservation should not be confused with "Coin Doctoring", in which an attempt is made to improve the appearance and grade of a coin through deceptive means such as artificial toning and where unaccepted or unorthodox methods are employed. Also not qualifying as conservation is restoration where mechanical repairs are made such as filling holes, smoothing out scratches, and re-engraving of detail. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Originally posted by RangerXLT8
So if any of us clean a coin it's "Cleaned", but if NCS does it, it's conserved? wow
Market acceptable coin doctors.  |
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