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Rest in Peace
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American Civil War 1861 - 1865 did you mean a different civil war? Your coin is dated 1844 I'm confused. Thanks Biokemist6 for the question mark. Made me look it up.
Edited by bpoc1 09/06/2011 4:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A beautiful specimen. The 1844 date is significant in that the range of years for tokens known as Hard Times Tokens ends in 1844. The 1844 dated design does show in Rulau's book "US Civil War Store Cards",however the reverse of your token does not seem to be included. This one will take a bit more work to identify methinks.
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New Member
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How did you come across it?
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This is truly a beautiful specimen, illustrating fine engraving amidst a great patina. Interestingly, the reverse die was delisted as a patriotic die in the 1982 Fuld patriotic token book. Yet, the 1844 die was retained! Thus, for almost thirty years now, this die combination has apparently been considered non-contemporary; this, with reference to the Civil war years. It was thought that these dies were intended for use on buttons. The anchor, rope and HOPE are identified with the Rhode Island State Seal.
P.S. - Hey Cointagous, great pics!
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Valued Member
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Quote: How did you come across it? I was purchasing another piece from the same site linked to this thread.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Quote: This is truly a beautiful specimen, illustrating fine engraving amidst a great patina. Interestingly, the reverse die was delisted as a patriotic die in the 1982 Fuld patriotic token book. Yet, the 1844 die was retained! Thus, for almost thirty years now, this die combination has apparently been considered non-contemporary; this, with reference to the Civil war years. It was thought that these dies were intended for use on buttons. Thank you Exoguy! The info you provided is the most I've found so far. the piece comes from the dealers Father's collection. I'm HONORED to add this R.8 to my collection.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Beautiful specimen! Great pickup, indeed!
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United States
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When I went to that website I was drooling all over their collection of pre civil war tokens in their gallery. The toning is just amazing on some of these. The Pioneer baseball club medal still eludes me.... http://www.nerarities.com/collectio...orials.shtml
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Beauty.... 
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United States
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Awesome token. And wow, that website has some beauties. Thanks for the info.
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United States
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It makes sense that this token was housed in a collection in the New England area; this, given its probable Rhode Island provenance as product of an unknown die sinker. These great pics are comparable to those that Cointagous provides in his threads. Thanks for sharing the joy of this great acquisition!
I'm guessing that the 1844 die will eventually be delisted from the Civil War token series, but if so, that certainly doesn't detract from the beauty of this specimen.
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Hi, I have for about 4 years off and on been looking to identify a copper coin or token I found in a bunch of coins I had in a box. My search this time around brought me to this page and much to my surprise your token Hope and game birds which is identical on the hope side to yours, though mine is not in as good condition and on the obverse my token has a single stag or buck in foliage and dots not lines circling the face. Maybe you would be interested in taking a look. I can send pics. Thanks so much...Bridget
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Pillar of the Community
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Welcome to the CCF, Bridget. Please, do post a pic of your token, and I expect that one of us exonumists may be able to provide to provide some insight.
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Bridget, your Civil War Token sounds like Fuld 481/485 and its also showing R-9
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