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My First Civil War Token.

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 Posted 09/06/2011  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
American Civil War 1861 - 1865 did you mean a different civil war? Your coin is dated 1844 I'm confused.
Thanks Biokemist6 for the question mark. Made me look it up.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny Guy to your friends list
A beautiful specimen. The 1844 date is significant in that the range of years for tokens known as Hard Times Tokens ends in 1844. The 1844 dated design does show in Rulau's book "US Civil War Store Cards",however the reverse of your token does not seem to be included. This one will take a bit more work to identify methinks.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JamieH to your friends list
How did you come across it?
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 Posted 09/07/2011  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
This is truly a beautiful specimen, illustrating fine engraving amidst a great patina. Interestingly, the reverse die was delisted as a patriotic die in the 1982 Fuld patriotic token book. Yet, the 1844 die was retained! Thus, for almost thirty years now, this die combination has apparently been considered non-contemporary; this, with reference to the Civil war years. It was thought that these dies were intended for use on buttons. The anchor, rope and HOPE are identified with the Rhode Island State Seal.

P.S. - Hey Cointagous, great pics!
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 Posted 09/07/2011  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCya to your friends list

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How did you come across it?


I was purchasing another piece from the same site linked to this thread.
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 Posted 09/07/2011  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCya to your friends list

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This is truly a beautiful specimen, illustrating fine engraving amidst a great patina. Interestingly, the reverse die was delisted as a patriotic die in the 1982 Fuld patriotic token book. Yet, the 1844 die was retained! Thus, for almost thirty years now, this die combination has apparently been considered non-contemporary; this, with reference to the Civil war years. It was thought that these dies were intended for use on buttons.



Thank you Exoguy!

The info you provided is the most I've found so far.
the piece comes from the dealers Father's collection.
I'm HONORED to add this R.8 to my collection.
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 Posted 09/07/2011  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list
Beautiful specimen! Great pickup, indeed!
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 Posted 09/07/2011  04:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cointagous to your friends list
When I went to that website I was drooling all over their collection of pre civil war tokens in their gallery. The toning is just amazing on some of these. The Pioneer baseball club medal still eludes me....

http://www.nerarities.com/collectio...orials.shtml
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 Posted 09/07/2011  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list
Beauty....
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 Posted 09/07/2011  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JamieH to your friends list
Awesome token. And wow, that website has some beauties. Thanks for the info.
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 Posted 09/07/2011  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
It makes sense that this token was housed in a collection in the New England area; this, given its probable Rhode Island provenance as product of an unknown die sinker. These great pics are comparable to those that Cointagous provides in his threads. Thanks for sharing the joy of this great acquisition!

I'm guessing that the 1844 die will eventually be delisted from the Civil War token series, but if so, that certainly doesn't detract from the beauty of this specimen.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bridget360 to your friends list
Hi, I have for about 4 years off and on been looking to identify a copper coin or token I found in a bunch of coins I had in a box. My search this time around brought me to this page and much to my surprise your token Hope and game birds which is identical on the hope side to yours, though mine is not in as good condition and on the obverse my token has a single stag or buck in foliage and dots not lines circling the face. Maybe you would be interested in taking a look. I can send pics. Thanks so much...Bridget
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 Posted 01/18/2014  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Welcome to the CCF, Bridget. Please, do post a pic of your token, and I expect that one of us exonumists may be able to provide to provide some insight.
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 Posted 01/18/2014  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
Bridget, your Civil War Token sounds like Fuld 481/485 and its also showing R-9
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