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 Posted 09/18/2011  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list

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Grabbed baking soda and a toothbrush and started making them "shiny"


AAARGG... don't ever do that.

your early halves a worth a bit leave them be..
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 Posted 09/18/2011  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Oh, BTW.. Welcome to the Forums.


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 Posted 09/18/2011  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saskman to your friends list
My plan:
Amazon doesn't have the Charlton book I see talked about here yet. I will check the book store here and see if they have it.

I googled for a coin club in my area. Nothing. There was a coin/stamp/magazine/brew-your-own store (small town, small market, gotta make a living somehow) around 10 years ago which has since closed. I remember another old guy with coins for sale at the local craft/flea market type events. I know there are collectors out there, I'll find some.

I want to keep at least one of everything I have. I am really interested in the large cents and would like to finance expansion by selling off the dollars and cleaned/excess halves along with the excess 1967 silver I have. There is a coin store around 100 miles away. Do coin dealers swap? Is this a good plan?

I will go through the coins I have once I get the Charltons and get some clarifications from you before I sell anything off. After the cleaning fiasco, I'd like to approach this hobby with a little more knowlege.

Thanks for your time.

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 Posted 09/18/2011  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neweden to your friends list
First of all

Please dont feel too ashamed at cleaning your coins, this has happened to most of us when we were novices.
With regards to your collection, if it was me I would hang on to the coins you have and, fill in on the ones you are missing, this can be done through auctions, mail order or later on when you have accumulated 250 posts exchange with members of this forum.
I would also obtain a good library (knowledge is power) and get a subscription to Canadian Coin News and then finaly get asking questions on this forum (dont be shy, even we had to start somewhere) most collectors on this forum are in my opinion brilliant, and have a fantastic amount of coin knowledge.
Post some pics of your coins and let us grade them for you, and for goodness sake quit cleaning your coins..
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Canada
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 Posted 09/18/2011  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlemoney to your friends list
What neweden said, get a subscription to Canadian Coin News to get an idea what trends are. Don't go by prices in Charltons.
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 Posted 09/18/2011  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
It sounds like you have a nice collection going -- and that you're organized.

My "cleaning" story: I was digging around in the garden and I found nails and broken glass and OH! a penny. It was muddy. I brought it indoors to wipe it off. I wanted to know what year it was. It was barely recognizable as a penny, being covered in mud. So I held it under running water and it literally disintegrated in my hand.
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 Posted 09/18/2011  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list
Welcome
hopefully you got the message about not cleaning any coins

You have received a welcome letter from the forum please review it

Just for fun
i will be the only one to answer your original post

Quote:
New collector needs direction


forgive me I just can'r resist

on most maps it goes like this


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 Posted 09/18/2011  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saskman to your friends list
Thanks for the welcome folks,

rggoodie - are you sure your directions are right? Far be it for me, as a newcomer, to question a long time member such as yourself but I'm sure that I'm facing south and that west is to my right.....Do I need to rearrange my computer? har-de-har-har

I've asked for a free copy of Canadian Coin News in pdf and it should be in my inbox now. I'll subscribe. I went to the bookstore but they had only the 2nd volume of Charltons. I bought a copy of "Canadian Coin Digest" and am reading it now.

neweden - When you say keep them all. So even the coins I cleaned still have numistin ..nuministwic ...nimun...collector value?
I thought I had cleaned away everything other than bullion value. I don't feel quite as foolish now.

Here is the coin I find the most beautiful out of all I have. The age of it and history it has seen....I find it fascinating.






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 Posted 09/18/2011  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saskman to your friends list
Here is a 1945 half

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In case anyone is wondering, this is what a 1945 half (not the one above, I swear) looks like after the baking soda/toothbrush treatment. This looks like some of the coins I see on ebay



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09/18/2011 6:46 pm
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 Posted 09/18/2011  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list
If you start collecting varieties, the 1945 Fifty Cent at the bottom is a scarcer Wide Date Blunt 5 and the one above is the more common pointed 5. The 1941-1947 have the last two date digits added to each Die which makes for many different punch spacing varieties....

If the toothbrush was very soft, there may not be too much damage.
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09/18/2011 7:11 pm
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 Posted 09/18/2011  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownick to your friends list
Do not get too discuraged, I looked through hundereds of old Victorian pennies at the coin show today and the only penny I bought was a cleaned double punched 1881. It was different and I liked it so I bought it. Of coarse it was'nt a whole lot even at EF.
If it was a regular strike, it would still be there,for sale,with no buyers. Good luck with your collection, it looks good so far.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list
Your 1859 cent is a Haxby catalog obverse o6 with the E9 reverse. Nice coin, with better photos the exact die state could be noted. There are something like 400+ varieties of 1859 cents.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
My advice is simple:

- accept the fact that even if you stick to strictly Canadian coins, you will never have one of everything.

- accept the fact that there is a learning curve, and you will make mistakes. Don't see those mistakes as getting hosed, but as a learning experience.

- get the right reference material and "coin tools" (good lens, proper holders, etc.)

- accept the fact that your collecting interests will evolve, and even change with time.

The rest is up to you. While getting the right reference material is essential, it does not help you decide what the appeal of collecting is. Think about what you like about the coins, pick a favorite theme or series and follow that. For some collectors, the elements of the designs are the appeal, others love to find the varieties or striking errors. The cartwheel lustre of a gem business strike coin can be intoxicating, so can the 'black & white' effect of a well struck specimen or proof-like coin with a strong cameo on the devices. I have seen coin collections based on everything from animals, the sun, people, religion, geology, nudity and even the coin's composition. There are mint state condition sets and there are even 'lowball' sets. For some it is the pure joy of finding something in pocket change or rolls, for others, it is the elation of seeing a rare coin finally show up at a coin auction. Humans collect things in general, some like beer cans, some like John Deere tractors and some like coins... finding your element whereby you can dive into it is important. If it is a series that little is known about, take up the challenge and learn, then share with others.

You already have an interesting head start, and some folks here have already pointed out varieties to you. What coins are your favorites in that list? That is usually a good place to start. Good luck and welcome to the hobby!
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer

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 Posted 09/21/2011  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saskman to your friends list
pginrh - The coin book I bought doesn't mention anything about that coins' variations. Just number minted and pricing by grade. As I don't (yet) understand the grading process, a book that is so general as to only give minimal information doesn't help me very much. Do you have a suggestion of a book that would teach me more about halves?

nybird - As above, only # minted and pricing on my cent. Any ideas on a large cent book?

If Charltons is more of the same, a pricing guide, I don't know if that should be my next purchase.

SPP-Ottawa - As you can probably tell, halves interest me. When I look at one, I am instantly drawn back to my childhood in Winnipeg. I can smell the oak leaves in the fall and hear the sound as my friends and myself kicked our way through the piles of leaves. Tobbogganing down the hill in the park, laughing at each others' snotcicles..... good times.

I saved those halves for week after week. Stacking, counting, sorting.... I stared at that coat of arms over and over. My family moved around alot when I was a kid. The few years we spent in Winnipeg were the best of my childhood.

That's why I like fifty cent pieces. 1937 to 1967. We moved to a different country in 68.


The large cents hit me differently. I like the colour, design and the age of them.

Small cents to 1936 appeal to me also as do nickels from 20 to 36. Mostly the design of them.

I've been looking at Newfoundland coinage on the interweb and I find it very interesting.

All the other coins I have mean nothing other than monetary value. I'll sort them and learn to grade them, but I feel no attachment to them and probably won't work towards a dime, quarter or a complete nickel or penny collection.
Caribou, Beaver, Maple Leaf.....I don't get any warm and fuzzy feelings when I look at them.

Thank you for asking such an astute question. I learnt alot about myself thinking of, and writing this answer.

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 Posted 09/21/2011  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list
The Charlton Standard Catalogue 'Canadian Coins - Volume One, Numismatic Issues' illustrates the extremes (ie. Wide Date, Narrow Date, etc) for the 40's 50 Cents .

The Canadian Silver 50 cents of 1937-1967 and the varieties of those dates are what I collect....since the last two digits were punched into each die in the 1941-1949 there are numerous repunches etc. in addition to the date spacing differences.

Also, last years (2011) 65th edition of the Charltons had many Large Cent Varieties illustrated.

When I worked in a gas station in the Sixties 50 cent coins were commonly in circulation and quite often one saw them coming in for payment...and thats where I developed a liking for them. If, after you acquire the Charltons above (it's really good), you decide you want more information on the Varieties for the 50 Cents, let me know and I can provide futher insights.
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09/21/2011 1:07 pm
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