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1909-S Lincoln

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 Posted 09/23/2011  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
Very nice 09's. I'm thinking VF25, with a good mintmark.
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 Posted 09/23/2011  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
VF-25, the location of the S is troublesome, I don't think I've ever seen one in that position. It's about the same place as fake S-VDB I have, however, it does appear to be the correct style.

You have guts buying a raw, key date Lincoln on ebay. It's something I would personally NEVER do. If it's genuine, I'd say it's a very nice coin. I see no problems with the surfaces. I'd get it slabbed ASAP to make sure that MM wasn't added. Then again, I can't see somebody going through the trouble to add a MM on a non-VDB 1909.
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 Posted 09/23/2011  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I was evaluating a 1909-S that was on ebay and it had the mintmark in a similar position. I cross-checked against some pictures from Heritage (coins.ha.com) and found a certified example with the MM in the same position (under the zero of the date).
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 Posted 09/23/2011  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list

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You have guts buying a raw, key date Lincoln on ebay


It's a risk for sure and I wouldn't dream of buying an SVDB or 14D raw, but I got this one for $75, so if I have to learn a lesson it won't be THAT bad. Seller has good feedback and a 7 day return policy so I thought I'd chance it. If it were yours would you return it or keep it and get it slabbed? I've got a few Ikes (FEVs) I wanted to holder so I thought maybe ANACS - especially since I'll just be breaking it back out again.


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Then again, I can't see somebody going through the trouble to add a MM on a non-VDB 1909.

Maybe the VDB fell off :)

KenKat is it this one?

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=24243
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 Posted 09/24/2011  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I am not sure of the exact one I found on ha.com but that one shows the mint mark in the same spot as yours I think.
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 Posted 09/24/2011  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Duke to your friends list
VF25, nice. Share our pics when you get it.
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 Posted 09/24/2011  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Nice detective work Ken! That's exactly what I do when in doubt, ha.com is a valuable resource.
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 Posted 09/24/2011  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list
I'm a bit more confident seeing a similar coin in an ANACs holder. Still not 100%, but I'll risk it for now I think. Thanks guys!
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 Posted 09/25/2011  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb1877 to your friends list

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If it were yours would you return it or keep it and get it slabbed?


Definitely a keeper. You got a great deal on it.
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 Posted 09/29/2011  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdh157 to your friends list
i think you got a good deal too......i love the pre '20 lincolns. thinking abt breaking up my set and sending some of them in to be slabbed, but having a tough time as I put almost all of it together before I turned 15 so its got a lot of sentimental value.
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 Posted 09/29/2011  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list
$75 is a steal for this coin. I think it's genuine. I paid more for my 09-S and it looks worse than yours.
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 Posted 09/29/2011  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdh157 to your friends list
BTW, can anyone tell me if there is any explanation as to why the s mintmark location varies so much on these?
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 Posted 09/29/2011  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list
Well, the mint marks were hand punched so that explains the variety, but I would think if you were the guy putting these on that you'd at least try to get them to look similar!
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 Posted 09/29/2011  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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I am not sure of the exact one I found on ha.com but that one shows the mint mark in the same spot as yours I think.
I was intrigued by the mm position, so I went to ha.com and looked at a dozen or so. It seems to be a scarcer position, but it looks like that one. Nice pickup!
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 Posted 09/30/2011  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list
I believe that I read that there were 6 obverse dies used on the 1909S - one of which was also used to mint the 1909S-VDB. Anyone know of a resource where you could find images of the known dies?
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