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I just got back from the post office. I went to a different one to my normal one (which is run by two of the friendliest women) and was told by a lady that it is illegal to post Australia currency. She wouldn't help me with postage solutions as it was illegal.
This can't be right. Hundreds of cons would be posted daily in Australia. I have never been told I am not allowed to until now? Can anyone confirm or bust this statement? Edited by enworb
02/07/2012 01:02 am
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P.S there was also the coins trout sent me waiting at the post office. Thankyou very much!
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Australia
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It is illegal to post current Australian currency, so what do you do?
If it's coins; describe the item as collectable coins or world money (which it actually is) or tokens or metal samples
If it's notes; describe the item as collectable notes or world money or funny money or toy/monopoly money
Although, I'm not sure about the angle with pre-decimals money.
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i have one here for trout that is going tomorrow, havnt been down town since last week. and hopefully 1 to ausjack next week if I don't forget
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P.S there was also the coins trout sent me waiting at the post office. Thankyou very much You are more than welcome mate  I always put "Numismatic items" on the description and have had no dramas whatsoever. BTW I think the staff at that post office are fare to pedantic. Use a different post office
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02/07/2012 01:16 am
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yes, it is illegal to send 'money' in the post, but collectable coins come under a different subsection.
Realistically, even the Mints do it, how else do coins get from perth and canberra to the customers.
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Australia
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Postal terms and conditions say " Registered Post gives you:..... ....the ability to send bank notes and coins to a maximum face value of $200 within Australia. These items cannot be sent using any other Australia Post service." This is to discourage sending cash payments through the post. Australia post would prefer you send a cheque or (even better for them) a money order. It is not intended to ban collectable coins but it does not actually say so. If they strictly enforced this (to the letter of the conditions and not the spirit) it would lose them business and, I suspect ebay would not be too happy either. Maybe we need a scheme like New Zealand where anyone can set up a mail service in competition with the previously monopoly, official carrier. Jeff |
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Australia
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Im quite suprised it is against their rules. The day I get something returned or a note to the receiver is the day I will stop doing it I suppose. I register anything over $50 but less than that have made the decision I will have to cop it if it goes missing. Touch wood, it has not happened yet.
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Section D3.2 of Australia Post's "Dangerous & Prohibited Goods and Packaging Post Guide" (download PDF here) states: Quote:
Banknotes are currency notes that are legal tender in the country of issue. Australian notes of
whatever age, currency or denomination are legal tender within Australia.
Coins are coinage in either Australian or foreign currency and includes coins made from precious
metals whether or not such coins have a denomination.
Australia Post prohibits banknotes or currency notes and coins:
♦ in the International Post
♦ in all services within Australia except Registered Post.
In Registered Post within Australia, Australia Post accepts banknotes or coins to a maximum face
value of $A200 in any one consignment. However, Australia Post accepts no liability for the loss of
or damage to any such notes or coins So yes, it is against Australia Post regulations to mail coins and banknotes using anything other than Registered mail, and only up to a face value of $200. Note "face value", not collector value - there actually aren't too many individual coins that fail on face value alone. The use of face value rather than collectable value indicates to me the main reason why this regulation is in place: to try to restrict cash money-laundering. The semantics should also be pointed out: it's not "illegal", it's "against regulations". Under the law, Australia Post is free to set whatever regulations it chooses, and it has unilaterally chosen to write the above regulation. Sending coins through the post is not a criminal act, in the sense of you being arrested or fined for attempting to mail money; the worst they can do is what they already did to you: refuse to accept it. The most annoying thing about this regulation is the effect it has on foreign post offices, especially the USPS in America. They've put on their guidelines for posting to Australia that coins are prohibited. It makes buying coins from America problematic, since many sellers are (understandably) not prepared to lie (or use weasel-words) on the customs form in order to openly defy a USPS guideline. It's come up for discussion on the forum numerous times. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Maybe the Royal Australian Mint should just send out metal disk samples! Helps with the Customs into the U.S.
I have received coins from the U.S., and that is what I have seen on the customs declaration.
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Australia
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One would think that if the purpose of this policy was to restrict money laundering the policy could be limited to notes. Even using $2 coins that is a heck of a lot of weight. I think Jeff is onto something about trying to restrict cash payments to push people towards using an Auspost money order. Has anyone heard of a package being returned to sender because it included coins?
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02/07/2012 07:54 am
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I would like to list "Round Metallic Objects" (RMO). Normally I use "Numismatics" with no problems shipping overseas.
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i wonder how much mail, even registered, would disappear if people wrote money on their mail? my eldest boy was playing with a mate years ago, when the ball went over the fence they went to ask if they could retrieve it with no answer, so they went out the back to find it. after a few minutes of looking my boy went under the house to search, where he found a ( in his words ) a big stack of open letters. when I asked him to describe the pile he said hundreds.
the next day I rang the post office, they did nothing, reported it the police when I seen one, he said with out valid reason they cannot even look. as far as I know nothing ever happened and the pile could still be growing. we put a padlock on our mailbox the next day.
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I was thinking more about this this morning. About two months ago I had someone send me an ebay message saying the package had a clean slit sliced into it and had been resealed by Australia post. They obviously cut this open to inspect it and didnt care that it was coins. I read on either the USA or general section of this forum about people in the US having things stolen from their mail so it obviously happens a bit. Whilst some people no doubt deserve it is hard to trust a lot of people these days. |
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