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Caracalla Denarius

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 Posted 05/14/2012  7:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add w00zi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does this look right to all of you? Something about the "o" on the obverse doesn't seem right to me. RIC 254.

Caracalla-Denarius

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05/14/2012 7:16 pm
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 Posted 05/14/2012  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 'O' in 'COS' looks OK to me, so I guess the one on the obverse is OK too.

If you are doubtful about the coin, have a close look at the edge of it. If possible, photo micrograph the splits on the edge. The interior of a split in a struck coin should be crisp, and the surfaces inside the split showing obvious signs of stress due to the fracture of the metal within the split.
Even very high grade casting cannot produce this characteristic.


Spend some time and have a look at the 'tesorillo' site. This is the best site I have seen for the investigation and detection of fake denarii. It is in Spanish, but there is a machine translation into English, which makes it a bit heavy to read.

TESORILLO will also give you some good knowledge on how to detect good quality die struck forged denarii.

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 Posted 05/14/2012  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks fine to me. The only concern that I might have is that from your pictures there seems to be some brown color between the letters. This could just be tonning or maybe base metal showning. The details are very fine.
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 Posted 05/14/2012  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w00zi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info! And I have spent quite a bit of time reading the information on tesorillo and have found it to contain very useful information. These images are the sellers images. The seller offers a life time guarantee of authenticity so I am not too worried about if this turns out to be a fake. I just need to know what to look for.
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 Posted 05/14/2012  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ummm, I'm a bit of a sucker for fake stuff ...

Example => Pamela Anderson => all real, until proven otherwise!!

=> so my opinion => very pretty coin!!

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I guess I'll be contrary (that's what my mother would always say about me). I don't like the looks of this coin and I can't put my finger on why. Personally, I would not buy this coin because of these misgivings. Apparently you have misgivings as well or you wouldn't have asked.

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ahahaha ...

jwh => we're a bit like Felix and Oscar
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Quote:
we're a bit like Felix and Oscar


Or Abbott and Costello/ Bing and Jerry (of course I'm more the Bing type)
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 Posted 05/14/2012  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Ummm, sure => I'll go along with that!!
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 Posted 05/14/2012  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With a coin that has the potential value that this one should have, I ALWAYS like to have the coin in hand for close inspection, before making a decision to buy.

If that can't happen, the only other alternative is to buy off a dealer who has many years of experience in ancient numismatics. The price will be higher, because you are paying for that experience.

VCOINS lists similar denarii in similar condition at around $750.
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 Posted 05/28/2012  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w00zi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin arrived today and the weird coloration in the sellers images were an artifact likely from the scanner. The coin has a nice dull silver color. I believe the red spots on the reverse are cuprite?

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 Posted 05/28/2012  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NOW that is a nice looking coin with nice toning. It sure is a lot nicer then the sellers images. Congrats.
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 Posted 05/28/2012  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeeooow => nice coin!!




=> aha ... yah sadly, I chuckle everytime I see that Jerry Lewis photo (and not a good chuckle either ... brutal)
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 Posted 05/28/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin w00zi
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 Posted 05/28/2012  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w00zi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I am quite happy with this one.
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 Posted 05/29/2012  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Wow woozi,

What a well centered, strong strike, clean fields, Good job....
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