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1696 1/2 Penny "Dei Gratia"

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 Posted 10/21/2012  12:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi.

Has anybody any information on this coin as I cannot see it recorded anywhere ? All 1/2 pennies appear to be Tertivs of this age.

Thanks in advance.



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 Posted 10/21/2012  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting! What's the size and what's on the reverse?

My initial reaction is that is not a real thing! Real coin that is. It could be quite a real token or medallion.
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 Posted 10/21/2012  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greeniejim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rooneydog, nice to see a rareity appear on this forum now and again, apparently its a Pattern Piece, of which only two other s are known................WOW

Further Info is available here....
http://www.colincooke.com/coinpages...n_part2.html
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 Posted 10/21/2012  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks greeniejim, svslav other side is Britannia as per normal 1/2 penny 28mm in diameter.
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 Posted 10/21/2012  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Brilliant discovery.Well done.
I'm against slabbing generally but when a rarity like this comes up I'm sure CGS will go for the publicity and raise the profile.
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 Posted 10/21/2012  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greeniejim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I would agree with peter1234 on this one, as the article mentions the other known examples are in very poor condition by comparison, I would almost certainly get it slabbed by the CGS.
If it turns out to be the real deal, and I see no reason why it wouldn't be, all I can say rooneydog, A BLOODY NICE FIND YOUNG CHAP....!!
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 Posted 10/22/2012  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweet! Where'd you get it?

And will you be selling it? You could get quite a few 1696 half pennies with that!
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 Posted 10/22/2012  05:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an awesome find. Well done!
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 Posted 10/22/2012  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greeniejim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rooneydog, where did you say you live, I think I was walkabout there a wee while ago and dropped it, I'm sure I had one of them.............

Good Luck buddy!
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 Posted 10/22/2012  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all, emailed CGS with photo etc - got no response so I phoned them and explained the rarity, got very little response apart from "we will send you an introduction pack and you can then make an appointment to come and see us". My opinion - poor, can anyone recommend any one else ?
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 Posted 10/22/2012  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greeniejim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rooneydog, my opinion on CGS attitude is worse than poor, unfortunately this is a family forum so I cant really voice my true opinion, personally I would try SPINK in London, perhaps they might show a bit more interest in the Rarity, and possibly include it in a future Newsletter.
What have you got to loose.?
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 Posted 10/22/2012  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again, will give it a go.
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 Posted 10/22/2012  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try CGS again with a link to the Nicholson collection.Likewise the same to Spink.
Don't forget we are talking about the pinnacle knowledge on the subject.
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 Posted 10/23/2012  03:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Peter1234, I did attach the link to the Nicholson collection in my email to CGS on Sunday, also in my email last night to Spink.
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 Posted 11/16/2012  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great discovery! Did you ever hear back from CGS or Spink?
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 Posted 06/03/2014  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As it has been 18 months I thought I would give Spink another chance, here's the reply.

I think the Spink coin department needs to apologise to you! This is of course a very rare coin and I can only assume that our specialist who looked at it originally took a cursory glance and assumed it was the normal legend.

I tend to agree that it would have been for circulation. We will put in the next edition of Coins of England and many thanks for the use of your image.


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