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1878 7TF VAM-144a? Or Something Else?

 
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 Posted 02/06/2013  08:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am new to Vamming and recently purchased this unattributed

I am almost positive it is a VAM-144-A with all obverse attributes But I noticed other anomalies on the reverse Is this not a 144A? Maybe another VAM? I do not have any books. I go by VAMworld.com and I couldnt find anything on there with the doubling on the reverse

Need some help on this one.

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 Posted 02/06/2013  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see the imageshack photos from work ... just little red X's. Check the 'O' in God (assuming it's a second reverse with short arrow nock). Vams 140-146 have an open 'O'.
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 Posted 02/06/2013  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I have an open 0. Sorry about the imageshack. I need a better image-hoster for free
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 Posted 02/06/2013  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The open O is one of the pictures.
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 Posted 02/06/2013  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it has parallel arrow feathers and a short nock (second reverse) and an open 'O' then it's limited to Vams 140-146. I'll give it a look tonight to verify.

Another option for image hosting is right here on CCF. Check out the member galleries link on the left. Create an account with SusanLynn, post your photos and use the link in the thread. There's no size restrictions like the direct posting.
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 Posted 02/06/2013  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I'm calling this one 144 rather than 144A, because 144A is defined by clashing I don't see here.
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 Posted 02/06/2013  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 144 should have the missing nostril. This has a full nostril
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 Posted 02/06/2013  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The 144 should have the missing nostril. This has a full nostril


Have a look at the full-face images posted for this VAM at VAMworld, and the bottom detail pic directly above them. You'll see the same partial nostril as your coin shows. Not sure I trust that first detail image showing the open nostril. Still doesn't matter - no clashing, no 144A.
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 Posted 02/06/2013  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a 144 for sure. Amazing what you can do when you can see the pictures.
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 Posted 02/07/2013  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! I was really thrown with the nostril I thought it had to be completely missing! And the Doubling on the reverse isn't anything to be concerned about? I dont see anything on vamworld that mentions reverse doubling
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 Posted 02/08/2013  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol Thank you seatednut! And everybody else on coincommunity for all your help!
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 Posted 02/08/2013  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think that's an unreasonable price.

As regards the doubling: It may be Machine Doubling, or maybe just something not recorded for the VAM. I lean toward the former, because it's pretty prominent and I can't see it going missed by whoever researched the coin. VAM-140, another use of this reverse, doesn't show the doubling either.
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 Posted 02/10/2013  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Superdave. I am always accepting Offers as well! If I Saved/Hoarded all of my finds I wouldn't be able to eat.

Thanks again everyone
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