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Nero Genuine? (Great Condition)

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 Posted 07/18/2013  1:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

The following coin of nero is offered on an auction, a coin of Nero.
What do you think, is it genuine or fake?
The condition of the coin seems to be super! (I suppose too good to be true?)

Thanks,

Nero-Genuine?-Great-Condition

Nero-Genuine?-Great-Condition
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 Posted 07/18/2013  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry ...... NG

The lettering alone is a red flag

Add in the very cast look of the surface and the 'dopey' look on Nero's face and this is not even a think twice item
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I would say its a fake. I think I see a seam between the border and the edge. The details look mushy and the the background surface fields look like they have remnants of casting. Fairly safe to say this is a fake.
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It might be think its supposed to be this...

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....I think you got it now though..
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Thanks!
I already thought so... unfortunately..

Or this one...

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yea, or that one...probably that one
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 Posted 07/18/2013  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a very common type of Nero As produced in Lugdunum (Lyon). I have seen some very decent ones on ebay for around $100. High grade $200 and up ! I believe your photo is one of those enigmatic non radiate dupondii. Very attractive piece ! Is it for sale ?
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You can buy a really crappy example on Vcoins for like 16 bucks...
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Firuius, its for sale for the astonishing amount of 1200 dollars
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Well that is just 'SILLY' !
I have one similar condition and if I wanted to sell it I would not ask half that !

It is possible too that the owner has no desire what so ever to sell it and simply puts it up for show.
Or he got fleeced and is trying to escape his mistake.
I have listed some Romans on ebay with no real desire to sell them.
I figure if someone did pay me 'Stupid money' I could always use the money to go buy 2 more !
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That's too bad, if it was real it would have been a nice coin to have.
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FR- you sell?
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It isn't too good to be true a better condition examples of real coins exist and are offered. The style however is too bad to be true.

Here are a couple from some fake reports that I have seen in recent years....

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It is interesting that the fakes all fail to capture the 'essence' of Nero's portrait. In fact they quite resemble Domitian to a great extent. Nero usually has a sneer and looks like he is trying to intimidate someone. These all have a 'dopey' happy Mr Niceguy sort of look. They do not capture him artistically.
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Two out of the 'vault'
What did I pay ?
I am rather clueless ..... Probably around $200

For Both !


Nero AE As
11.01 grams 28-29mm
Lugdunum
Nero-Genuine?-Great-Condition

Nero-Genuine?-Great-Condition

Nero AE Dupondius
13.18 grams 31-32mm (unusually large)
Lugdunum

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Careful now, FURIVS, we might have to hate you a little
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