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Pillar of the Community
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I bought this coin off of ebay for $11 and noticed this black crud on the coin. I've been soaking it in Olive Oil and rubbing it with a bamboo stick and have had some success in getting that stuff off. It doesn't look like it's destroying the surface, but it's already incredibly better looking than when I started. I've put some acetone and Xylene on the coin for at most one minute, but that didn't seem to affect the crud. I'm staying away from electrolysis at the moment. Without debating clean vs. unclean (this thing's GONNA get cleaned), what is the black gunk and what is the recommended way of removing it? And does anyone know what the origin of the diagnonal lines? Is this a specific variation, or was the coin whizzed or something? Thanks!! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You might want to try bathing it in denatured alcohol for a couple of days (flip it over midway). It's really good at removing contaminants that acetone cannot remove.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sure looks as though it has been "harshly cleaned" at some point in its life.
Don't know how to get the gunk off...since you don't have a ton of money tied up in the coin you do have some latitude to experiment.
Good luck...let us know if you find anything that works!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Although you didn't specify it appears to be an 1845 Copper Large Cent. In that condition only about an $12 to $25 coin. Since you've already tryed Acetone, brushes, Olive Oils, etc. I don't see why you haven't just put it in Tarn-X. If you don't have any, check your car for a removable lid on the battery. If no car, try someone else's car. A removable lid indicates a Lead-Acid battery and the acid is Sulfuric. Using a turkey type baseter, withdraw some of the acid, emerse your coin in that and presto, all nice and cleaned. If anyone is sandblasting a brick building in your area ask them to turn it on your coin. Usually a wire wheel on a bench type grinder will also help remove that stuff. As to what it is. That could be anything. It is not the usual Oxydation symptoms. The normal Oxygenation would be to turn it Reddish, then brownish, then possibly green. Happens when any Copper is exposed to the elements such as Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide, Moisture. What you have appears to be excessive Oxydation but difficult to tell from a photo. As long as you've already distroyed most of the coin value you may as well try acids. By the way the brush lines are usually from the original plates of Copper used back then when they would brush the metals to make them brighter.
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 United States
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Don't discount the acetone until the bath can be measured in days, not minutes. As another possibility, soak the coin in water for a few days. Then freeze it in a shot glass full of water, and allow it to thaw. This process, repeated, can pull anything off the coin which is even a little water-soluble.
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quote: As another possibility, soak the coin in water for a few days. Then freeze it in a shot glass full of water, and allow it to thaw.
Distilled water or it doesn't matter?
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Pillar of the Community
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YES...distilled water. I still would use denatured alcohol though...much more effective and faster.
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I'd use distilled water, to avoid transferring something to the coin. Even though the technique is designed to remove water-soluble stuff from the coin, any time you touch a coin with water it should be distilled.
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I have tried the peroxide method on some artifacts(old cut nails) I found with my metal detector. I heated up the hydrogen peroxide in the microwave & dropped the nails in. When the bubbling stopped I took the nails out & repeated the process several times. I don't know how it works with coins, but when I was done you could see the hammer marks on the nails from when they were made.
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Pillar of the Community
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Wonderful responses!!! Thanks to everyone for their input.
This is my current plan of action.
1) Acetone for 3 days. 2) Denatured Alcohol 3) Distilled water. 4) Tarn-X
I'll post pictures as I go along to show you the effects of each.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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You can always try WD-40.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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1 Day of Acetone = no change, but made the coin duller. Rubbed on it a bit with my thumb, and the color returned. So, no visable negative aspects of the acetone yet.
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Pillar of the Community
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When you use the denatured alcohol, keep it in for about 18 hours per side; no rubbing. Some/most of the gunk should lift off on its own. After 2-3 days in this bath, you might want to use a little bit of pressure with a cotton swap and/or toothpick. Keep us informed.
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Pillar of the Community
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Where can I find denatured alcohol at? My local Walgreens only had one type of alcohol.
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