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1882 Morgan Toned

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Not sure what I'm looking at... In person its pretty dark and has a sort of green bullseye. I need better pictures but I see some wear on the hair etc. Would this be XF or maybe AU? It was interesting so I bought it, I know it has a huge fingerprint on it :(



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 Posted 11/14/2013  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't tell if that's wear or if that is just where the toning was rubbed off. AU-MS.
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I can't tell either but it looks like some wear on the tops of the hair which I think would be the highest devices on the obverse. Aside from the rim dings the reverse is pretty nice!
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What you're looking at is one of the worst cases of PVC damage I've ever seen on a Morgan. That coin is almost certainly beyond saving, but you need to try.
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Soak it in some acetone overnight, have a cold one and check back in the morning..
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The pictures look around AU-58.
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Nicr toning. AU55.
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Hey ssuperdave, so I can learn something here... How did you discern PVC damage versus toning on this ?
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If you take a Q tip to this coin there would be residue on it.
Toning wou;d not have the greenish color. IMO
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Ok Bpoc1 I'm interested. So if I rub a Qtip on it PVC will come off but toning would not? I'll try it once someone confirms that's correct
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I would just plop it in some acetone.
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I am not so sure it's PVC as opposed to some greenish toning given how out of focus it is, can we get a better, straight-on image?
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It's PVC. Morgans don't tone that color, ever. Get it into acetone. I can't state this any more unevuivocally.
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Here's the best I can do picture-wise. No noticeable residue with a qtip rub on the obverse fingerprint or rim area. I guess I'll be tossing it in acetone. Does it have to be in a glass bottle or can I just use a tuna can? I don't think I have a bottle with an opening large enough..




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ok here are some pics of my donor coin. I never did an acetone soak before. The coin was in for 75 minutes, swirling about every ten minutes. I rolled a q-tip lightly over each surface at the end. A little grime came off, I didn't apply much pressure.

The original 1882 coin is currently soaking now :)

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