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Another coin being held for me until I'm able to pay (shouldn't be too long). My soon-to-be newest acquisition and probably my last purchase of the year. It will be my second Ostrogothic coin featuring the name of a reigning king, the other being my decanummium of Theodahad, Athalaric's successor. Like pretty much every other Ostrogothic coin, this type is very rare, even in this condition.

Really very little about him online. This (from Wikipedia) is the most I found in one place:
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Athalaric (516 - " 2 October 534) was the King of the Ostrogoths in Italy. He was a son of Eutharic and Amalasuntha. His maternal grandfather was Theoderic the Great. He succeeded his grandfather as king in 526.

As Athalaric was only ten years old, the regency was assumed by his mother, Amalasuntha. His mother attempted to provide for him an education in the Roman tradition, but the Gothic nobles pressured her to allow them to raise him as they saw fit. As a result, Athalaric drank heavily and indulged in vicious excesses, which ruined his constitution.

His mother, Amalasuntha, daughter of Theodoric the Great, has more recorded about her:

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Her husband died, apparently in the early years of her marriage, leaving her with two children, Athalaric and Matasuntha (c. 517 - " after 550), wife c. 550 of Germanus. On the death of her father in 526, her son succeeded him, but she held the power as regent for her son.

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Conscious of her unpopularity she banished, and afterwards put to death, three Gothic nobles whom she suspected of intriguing against her rule, and at the same time opened negotiations with the emperor Justinian I with the view of removing herself and the Gothic treasure to Constantinople. Her son's death in 534 made little change in the posture of affairs.

-Both from Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalasuntha)

More here: http://jaysromanhistory.com/romeweb...nt/art31.htm

Athalaric, Ostrogothic King of Italy (ruled 526-534 AD)
AE Decanummium
Obv: INVIC-TA ROMA, Roma helmeted, facing right
Rev: DN ATHAL-ARICVS, Athalaric, in military outfit, standing, holding spear and shield, SC across fields, X in left field
Rome mint (struck 526-534 AD)
Ref: BMC Vandals 69, COI 85b
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If you'll notice, it has the letters SC (for Senatus Consultum) on the reverse, just like Roman coins of the early centuries AD. This was to show the renewed influence and prestige the Roman Senate regained under the Ostrogoths.
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Nice. Another type I bet is often overlooked as a barbaric coin and chucked in the junk bin. Just not enough around for us all to have one...
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Another type I bet is often overlooked as a barbaric coin and chucked in the junk bin.
Heck, I don't even have any ancient coin junk bins to sift through around where I live, so I basically have to be a hunter for these online.
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Another excellent and rare find, congrats on your upcoming addition.
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Thanks echizento!
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Very nice, I now keep an eye out for these accidentally mixed in with LRBs but have never spotted any on ebay.

Do you know what the reference book is? (Ref: COI 85b)

I have a grotty slug that has something resembling a Ostrogothic eagle but sadly I think its more likely some kind of barb rather than my first Ostrogothic.

You should start your own webpage if info is thin on the ground online
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Do you know what the reference book is? (Ref: COI 85b)
You know, I actually never bothered to find out. I personally prefer BMC Vandal (written by wroth), but with Ostrogothics I usually instinctively go to Coinproject and COI is the reference they mainly use (perhaps short for COInproject?).

I found the BMC reference for it: BMC 69.
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I wouldn't have given this a second glance, I wonder what else I have missed. I am going to have to pay more attention in the future, great find.
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Thanks pish! In my earlier ancient collecting days I would have probably skipped this one too if it was among a lot or something.


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I have a grotty slug that has something resembling a Ostrogothic eagle but sadly I think its more likely some kind of barb rather than my first Ostrogothic.
Forgot to address this but I think you should post it anyway bobby Definitely something I'd be interested in seeing!
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VK, I fully expect to see your name on some scholarly numismatic articles in the future :)
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Nice find, VK... COI is Metlich, Michael A. The Coinage of Ostrogothic Italy. London, 2004.
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Thanks for the info Triskeles I'll be sure to check it out sometime.
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Forgot to address this but I think you should post it anyway bobby. Definitely something I'd be interested in seeing!


King-Athalaric


The eagle has a style about it that has always reminded me of some of the Ostrogothic eagles we see.

I've picked the details out here, its only 9mm but looks to have lost a bit of meat:

King-Athalaric


Very similar to this Theoderic I think.

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Possibly an imitative CONSECRATIO issue of Claudius II?

The style is unusual.

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Its pretty similar, for sure. Only thing is the direction of the eagle's head and what looks to be letters on the reverse of yours. Can't really give a 100% verdict on it. Might also be a barbarous Consecratio.
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Possibly an imitative CONSECRATIO issue of Claudius II?


That is usually where I end up when I try to ID it. Never 100% happy with it though.

Drives me crazy when I can't reach a reasonable ID - need to stop acquiring these low grade head scratchers
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