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Strange Coin Surfaces On Np

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 Posted 04/07/2014  10:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi all,
I recently picked up this strange caracalla provincial from anchialus thrace. hadn't seen one quite like it, but couldn't find a fake match for it. here are the sellers pics..

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looks like a decent green patina with some big scratches on the obverse, minor scratches on the reverse. some brown deposits here and there.

here are my pics..

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bare coin on the scratches around the head, deposits that are hard to tell from bare patches around the letters...mostly. my first thought when I saw it in hand was that it was painted! strange looking coin.

seller has it attributed as vabanov 306, here's the wildwinds version, not quite the same...different apollo (reverse)...


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any thoughts on what this is, why it looks the way it does, or anything else, would be appreciated.

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 Posted 04/07/2014  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jeeze Chris, looks good to me. I am unfamiliar with the coin but the patina looks nice. If there is no reverse match you can find, maybe it's a mule. Interesting though.
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 Posted 04/07/2014  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin Chris. All the reference books on Provincials are way out of date, I wish someone would right a new one.
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 Posted 04/07/2014  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Moushmov Online does have a reference to an Anchialus bronze of Caracalla that has Hermes naked holding a purse and cornucopiae. It's Moushmov #2864.

http://www.wildwinds.com/moushmov/anchialus.html

However your coin doesn't appear to have a purse in the right hand, but more of a branch (?).
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 Posted 04/07/2014  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hermes, in that issue, is naked with a mantel on his shoulder, but on closer examination the figure on the back of your coin looks as if he may (?) be clothed?
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 Posted 04/08/2014  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks all, thanks for the tip paulb...I'm not sure myself..i think he is nude. could be hermes instead of Apollo? I would guess it's a laurel branch.
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 Posted 04/08/2014  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're right about it likely being Apollo, that is Ivan Varbanov's guess in his book:

Varbanov II, 416:
Obverse: laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
Reverse: "Naked youth (Apollo?) advancing left, (seen from behind) holding bouquet in left hand and right hand on head."

Rated Rare (R7), 20 - 50 examples known.

So as not to offend our "Minor" members I have affixed a Fig leaf to the naked youth.
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Would've added the full Greek legends, but CCF posts cannot deal with Greek Unicode.
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 Posted 04/08/2014  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just testing

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 Posted 04/08/2014  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks so much masis, I really appreciate it.

i think I have the legends figured out...pretty sure.

hey that figleaf you did there looks nice on the green patina. lol!
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