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United States
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I know this inquiry is ex post facto, but the seller is a power seller and the price was apparently lowers because of cleaning and scratches. The fields look only scratched, not pitted as in a cast copy. Thanks for your opinions. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WN:IT&ih=013  ? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can't see anything that jumps out at me for being a fake.
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United States
239 Posts |
It looks real to me, but it's definitely been cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
750 Posts |
Looks ok to me, spent a bit to much time in the bathtub though..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3233 Posts |
Cleaned, damaged, common....PASS.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nothing sticks out as to being a fake. The cleaning, scratches, and rim bump give a big hit to the value so I would think that the price it went for is not out of line. With that said, I would never spend $150 for that dog when I could get a much nicer example for $50-100 more.
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 United States
235 Posts |
It may be common, but most of us cannot afford pristine coins. It completes my mini-collection of first-year issues for the seated liberty design, all in VG to F: 1837 Half Dime and dime, 1838 quarter, 1839 half, and 1840 dollar. Not a bad grouping of "common" coins. |
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United States
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I agree with the rest, it looks good, defaintely cleaned.
With the cleaning, rim bump, gouge in the chest area, the seller should be tickled with what this sold for.
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United States
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I didn't mean it should be passed on since it was common. The fact that it's a cleaned, damage coin coupled with the fact it's common makes it quite undesirable for most collectors. Better examples, especially common ones, exist that are fairly priced. Most have been cleaned, but it's unacceptable if the coin appears to be scrubbed to death.
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Houston_Guy
The faintness of the reverse devices would scare me away. They look out of proportion to the overall wear on the reverse and an indication of a possible counterfeit. When making a decision like this, even for a worn common date in this issue, I would ask the seller two things: How much does it weigh? And does it ring like silver? Any coin less than 25.5gr is a no-go (Genuine Unc coins will be 26.73gr +/-.01! It could be a gram less with this much wear.
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United States
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SeatedNut- You are absolutely right; and the first thing I will do when I receive the coin is weigh it and ring it. I took a chance on its authenticity because of the seller's reputation as a "power seller" with 100% positive feedback and the fact that the fields only look scratched rather than pitted. The coin is obviously over-cleaned which, combined wiith scratches, ac*deleted* for the minimum bid of $155. I needed a cheap 1840 dollaar to complete my mini-collection for fcirst-year iossue Seated Liberty coins. The defect at 5 o'clock on the obverse concerned me because it might be a filled die or might be an air pocket in a cast mold. Overall, it does not appear to be a cast copy. I have a Chinese copy of an 1840 dollar. The picture looks nothing like the grainy cast copy. |
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The partially deleted word in the above post is ACCOUNTS, and not what the automated puritanical censor thought is was. Definition of 'censor' -- a person who knows more than what he thinks you ought to know.
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Valued Member
United States
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I know this is not an 1840 but I found this one for $175 and thought it was a good looking coin that has an original look. It also shows that original uncleaned seated lib $1 can still be found at a reasonable price.  |
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Valued Member
United States
235 Posts |
The 1871 dollar is a beautiful coin for $175, and worth the wait if any date seated iberty dollar will complete a type set. On the other hand, I specifically needed the 1840 to complete my first-year issues of Seated Liberty coinage, which is not frequently offered. At any rate, my question goes to the authenticity of the coin, not to its aestetic appeal or price. Is the glob of metal at 5 o'clock on the obverse a filled-in die, or is it a glob that went into an air pocket of a cast mold? |
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United States
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You'd really need to have it in hand to get an idea of what that is on the obverse, but based on the beating the coin has taken, I'd be more inclined to say that whatever is on the obverse happened post-mint, and I think it's real
Edited by halfabustisbetter
08/03/2007 5:50 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think the anomaly at 5 o'clock is a dim ding that has bent the rim slightly.
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Posted 08/02/2007 2:34 pm
