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I just bought a 1909-S Lincoln Cent yesterday. I was getting a little paranoid (or cautious), after reading David W. Lange's book on Lincoln Cents, where he talks about faked coins. He points out the specific characteristics of the S mintmark on Lincoln between 1909-1917. Tonight, using my QX5 microsope camera, I took the following photos of the mintmark. Then I noticed on Coppercoins.com, he had listed a 1909-S: 1909S-1MM-001 | S/S NORTHEAST (MDS) CONECA: RPM#001 | Crawford:UNKNOWN Wexler: WRPM-002 | FS#:1C-012.2 http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mdsThis is his pic:  This is my coin, first at 60X, then 200X:   Also, just wondering, does the mintmark look authentic? |
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Nice pics yechi. Looks like a definite FS012.2
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Sorry to be a dummy, but what's a FS012.2?
Edited by yechi7
08/25/2007 11:56 pm
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Very nice! I am jealous. The FS number is the number used in the Cherry Pickers Guide. Basically you got a 1909-S with a repunched mint mark worth around 200-275! If it was mine I would clean it up a little bit, but since that is a very hot topic I won't suggest it. The second photo almost makes me want to think it is a 012.3. Edited by chrsb
08/26/2007 12:39 am
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DON'T clean it, whatever you do...
I could be wrong but I don't think so...this is not FS#1c-012.2
The upper serif on your coin is a lot further away from the primary mintmark than you would expect to see on the FS#1c-012.2 so I'm certain it is NOT RPM#1 as they call it in the CPG. So it is not a 250 dollar coin as suggested as it lists for around $100.00 in XF if it is this one, which I think it is not.
It looks more like the FS#1c-012.3 known as RPM#2 (S over horizontal S)although it appears in the picture to be slightly different. This one would also be about $100.00 in XF.
I don't suspect that your coin is XF but a picture of the entire obverse would help.
There is an outside chance that this is yet another RPM that is not listed in the CPG, so I'm hoping that Charles can ad some info on this one.
Thanks,
Bill
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If it was mine I would clean it up a little bit
What did you have in mind? quote:
The second photo almost makes me want to think it is a 012.3.
I think you're right, now that you mention it - from coppercoins.com:  |
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I don't suspect that your coin is XF but a picture of the entire obverse would help.
 The dealer I bought it from said that the dealer he bought it from graded it F but my dealer felt that the reverse has VF details visible on the wheat stalks. He thought the 1st dealer maybe dropped it to F based on marks on the reverse:  Edited by yechi7
08/26/2007 01:24 am
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I didn't buy it as an RPM; I just noticed it after getting it home. I paid $110.
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It grades FINE...even before the scratches, Very Fine is not even a consideration. Unfortunately, some dealers will try to make a damaged coin seem like it is better than it is. This coin would Net grade VG-8 because of all the scratches on the reverse and would be a $70.00 coin at best. There isn't much of a premium over the normal price for an 1909 S on that RPM. You should have paid $70.00 or less or you paid more than you should have.
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Advice given is correct. The coin is a damaged F, worth $50-$75. It's also 1909S-1MM-002 (RPM#002) which is very common and not worth much of a premium at all.
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Posted 08/25/2007 11:56 pm
