1936 Lincoln Wheat Cent Error Or Post Damage?

In my opinion it's definately post mint.

Welcome to the forum Matk.Lokk forward to seeing more of your cents!

Not so fast, Babalooey....Thats just a joke...Anyway, The broken foot of that R is often a diagnostic of a doubled die variety on 1936 cents. It could be damage to the die that would make this a Mint error, check the date for doubling. You can also see doubling on the IGWT motto if indeed the coin is a doubled die.

Dont toss it back in with the other cents just yet.

In fact, if you can take a pic of the date and post it, we can probably tell if it is a doubled die.

Thans,
Bill

I thought the broken "R" on a 1936 DDO was just the left bottom tip, I do not have my book near me though.

This is what the broken R looks like on the LIBERTY of a 1936 DDO. It is FS#1c - 016 in the CPG. Even on a beat up example, you can see the shape that indicates the die doubling on the letters ERTY. You can see a notch on the lower right leg of the R , even on this clunker. You can see what the broken leg looks like on the left... The word GOD in the motto also has doubling easily visible on a worn example.

Just take a close look at what you have.

OK so the broken "R" is a die error then. It looks to be mint damage and that is exactly what I was searching for.....Die damage. Like I said it doesn't look smashed or damaged in that area...just the bottom of the R is missing. The new image is just another shot at the same angle that may better show the error.

Mark

Specific terminology...it's a hub break. The hub that created the die broke, so in effect there is no damage to the die - that is how it was made. Because the die was made this way, it is not a die error. But yes, this happened at the mint, and because of the level of process in which this occurred, it is very common and not worth anything over the value of a typical 1936P circulated cent - 3 or 4 cents.

The level at which it occurred - the hub, or the positive impression that makes many working dies, broke due to an accident, too much pressure, improper manufacture, or something - doesn't matter what caused it, the leg of the R broke off the hub. The hub, in turn, makes a number of dies, usually somewhere between 50 and 100 dies. If the R broke off early in the hub's life, this could mean that some 40-60 dies with the broken R evident were made. Each die has an approximate life span of 250,000 - 500,000 coins. Even with both numbers on the low side of the scale, this would mean that 10 million cents with the broken R were minted. That's why broken hub occurrences are generally just a footnote and not seen as anything of importance. Pieces are extremely common for the issue, and are extremely easy to find.

Does this make them "not" errors because there were 10 million plus made? Absolutely not. They are still errors, just minor and very common errors that are not worth anything more than a typical coin.

I think the same thing happened on the 1956-D Cents. The bottom part of the 6 must have crumbled off the hub as there are several different dies that show the missing part of the 6. Check lower 6 on date.

Charles,

Thanks for that clarification with respect to the hub on the 1936 cents. Also, It was a good time to point out that 6 on the 1956 D cent. It is so common but it does generate a lot of questions.

Have Fun,
Bill