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New Member
United States
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I've read this forum for a long time but never had a question that couldn't be answered. My question is, can PMD cause the three and liberty to be "smashed" like this? I'm assuming this coin Is a fake, but can't stop thinking that maybe it isn't. Any opinions would be great. Thanks   |
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Valued Member
United States
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See if it sticks to a magnet. If it does then it is steel.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Fakey fakey fake in my opinion.
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 United States
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Almost certainly not, of course, but let's be sure. You can expect a copper 1943 to exhibit an outstanding strike because it was struck at the heavier pressure required for steel. Also, the weight will be significantly heavier for a copper planchet, so accurate weight is the very first fact to learn. If it's the right weight, we'll go from there into a careful examination of the 3 to see if it's an altered digit.
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United States
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 to CCF. 2.7g for a 1943 and 3.1g for copper. You would need a pretty good scale to tell the difference because the mint has a tolerance they go by.Try the magnet test. NOTE: U.S.Code 5113 reads... +/- 0.13g for a cent. http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...pper_US_centJohn1  Edited by John1
02/25/2015 5:30 pm
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New Member
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Sorry, forgot to mention. I did the magnet test (it does not stick to one) and it weighs appr. 3.1 grams (assuming my scale is accurate). What bothers me is that the 3 and the lib in liberty looks smashed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Maybe it was altered from a different date?
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Moderator
United States
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Compare it "closely" to a 1948, I think that is most likely what you have. Here is hoping you have the real thing  John1 |
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United States
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What bothers me is that the 3 and the lib in liberty looks smashed. You have exactly the right questions. We should figure it's an altered date, but it's going to take significant photographic magnification for us to be of much assistance. |
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United States
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Close ups please.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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the weakiness of devices is caused by die ware which is common in the series and especially in 1943. heres hoping shes real!
Feel free to call me Will.
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New Member
United States
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Thank you everyone for your input so far. I try to get a more magnified picture of the date in the next couple of days.
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United States
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the weakiness of devices is caused by die ware which is common in the series and especially in 1943 Quite the contrary. Steel Cents are known for excellent strikes and relatively little die wear. That's because die wear is caused by friction, and Steelie planchets were nice enough to inclue a coating of zinc (which was used as an anti-wear additive in motor oils) to lubricate the strike. A well-struck Steelie is the expectation, although weaker examples exist. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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An Alibaba coin.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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New Member
United States
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This is about as magnified as I could get it. Again, thanks again for taking a look at this "rare" coin.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Is this a coin listed on E-Bay currently? There is one on there that looks like the same obverse. The reverse on it looks double stamped lightly clockwise. None of the Heritage Auctions for genuine 1943 copper cents that I looked at have that similar reverse. Just an honest opinion, but I'd say not real....
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Posted 02/25/2015 3:24 pm
