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As noted in the title, I'm trying to determine how many Canadian specimen sets were produced for each year of issue between 1858-1967. Does anyone have this info to share with the forum or know where I can find it? Please advise. Thanks.
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Skip I think that it is going to be a real challenge. Old Royal Mint reports are not going to be that helpful and the research involved will be tough and tedious. I am not sure if anyone can tell you the exact mintages with the possible exception of the 1908, 1937, and some later stuff. Since a lot of the SPECIMEN coins struck after WWII were made under rather mysterious circumstances, I doubt anyone will really know. Good luck in your quest . One thing to realize is that a lot of the early Specimens were made to order for museums and exhibitions, as well as high ranking dignitaries and the very odd sundry collector. |
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 , I'mglad this question was asked....hope someone can tell us. Feel free to call me Will.
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Thanks Pacific, I figured it would be quite the challenge when I posted the question, but I also figured we have some really strong researchers on this forum who may have already done some work on this topic. In any case, I'm certainly interested in hearing from anyone who may have info to share, even if it only pertains to a few years of issue like the 1908 or 1937 sets, as you mentioned. I didn't know the circumstance(s) in which the sets were produced/issued, or the mysteriousness of their post-WWII production cycles; both of which are very interesting points you raised. Not a day goes by on this forum where I don't learn something new. ;)
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Skip, if you have access to a copy of "A Guide Book of Canadian Coins and Tokens 1st Edition" by James A. Haxby (a forum member) , there is an interesting read on Specimen coinage of 1858 to 1967, pp 384,385,386 . There are some mintage figures , but they are by no means complete. IE 1902 shows 100 sets. Also the ICCS 2014 POP report offers insight to remaining certified numbers. Have a blast get back to us with some interesting tidbits!
Also the post war years 1945-1949 offer lots of Specimens to drool over and the mintages are low. Can you say made to order ? Sure you can!
There were some nice examples for sale in the recently completed Victoria North Sale. A previous post refers to a 1950 25 cents that was to die for!
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pacific, could you possibly get me a mintage for 1946? please and thank you : )
Feel free to call me Will.
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Tried my hardest but this was all I could find I could find, hope this helps.
1954: 3,000
1955: 6,300
1956: 6,500
1957: 11,862
1958: 18,259
1959: 31,577
1960: 64,097
1961: 98,373
1962: 200,950
1963: 673,006
1964: 1,653,162
1965: 2,904,352
1966: 672,514
1967: 963,714
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Pacific, thanks for the reference, just ordered myself a copy. I recall some beauty single specimen coins from Victoria North, but more importantly, complete sets from 1908, 1937 (both matte & mirror finishes), 1951 & 1952 being offered, and there was a bit of bidding activity on those if I recall correctly. ;)
Coin lover, thanks for the effort, but those mintages are for the proof-like sets, not specimen sets.
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The afore mentioned book states 1946 having a mintage of 15 sets but that has to be erroneous when comparing the ICCS reports for survivors. For instance total grades are as follows cent 31 , 5 cents 28 . 10 cents 71 , 25 cents 12 , 50 cents 13 , Dollar 28. Also these do not include any NGC or PCGS numbers. I have a 1946 cent in SP60 and a SP65 25 cents that are both in US TPG. |
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thanks, I was just wondering because I got a 1946 cent in SP-64 Rd norweb, I've been trying to flip it but none of the dealers down here have the kind of customers it takes to sell. need an upgrade?
Feel free to call me Will.
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Skip...Here is some info on your question that I have. As Pacific mentioned the official issue of the early sets is unknown. There are a number of sets of other years other than the ones I have listed that were given out to certain dignitaries. The list of special presentation sets that were issued with a case that usually had the date inscribed in the case are: 1858...1,5,10,20 Cents 1870...1,5,10,25,50 Cents 1902...1,5,10.25,50 Cents 1908...1,5,10,25,50 Cents ( the set was issued on the opening of the Canada Mint). 1911...1,5,10,25,50 Cents 1937...1,5,10,25,50,1.00 ( Was issued in a presentation set and also in a cardboard set). One presentation set of 1921 is known to exist. Approx. 1000 sets of 1908, 1911, and 1937 were issued. Specimen coins known to exist prior to 1937: Cents...1859 over 8 (wide 9), 1859,1876,1882,1890,1891LD,1893,1899,1908,1911,1925,1937. 5 Cents...1858 SD & LD, 1870 Flat edge, 1870 Raised edge,1871,1872,1880,1883,1886,1887,1889,1892,1893,1899,1908,1937. 10 Cents...1858,1870,1908,1911. 25 Cents...1858,1870,1874,1894,1901,1908,1937. 50 Cents...1872,1908,1911,1937. 1 Dollar...1935,1937. As you can see not all denominations were issued in each year. Hope this helps explain this mystery of early specimen issues for you and hopefully others can contribute info that they have.  Edited by wireman09
03/17/2015 12:14 am
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Thanks very much wireman! This is very helpful.
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There is a specimen dollar also out there for 1936... it cannot be confirmed that it was struck in 1936 (it used to belong to Pittman, if you can see where I am going with this...)  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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SPP, was that an Edward VIII segue?
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Roger ......................put the brakes on !  !! Mentioning Specimen 1936 dollars could lead to conspiracy and otherwise dotty theories. There are 5 1936 SP dollars in ICCS holders with the highest an SP67. Skip there is a rumour of an Edward VIII silver dollar pattern, never confirmed. It is referred to in Starr Gilmores book on Canadian Silver Dollars. I got sick of waiting for one so I just got one in Bronze from INA retro , pretty cool piece. They are listed in KRAUSE odd and unusual coins. Edited by Pacificoin
03/18/2015 12:28 pm
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SSP Ottawa...I was just giving Skip the only information I could find on early specimen sets from a older book out of my numismatic library. I'm also sure there are additional dates of specimen coins other than the ones I listed.
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03/18/2015 4:38 pm
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