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Liceo Europa

 
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 Posted 12/17/2007  5:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any information is requested for this token
obverse LICEO EUROPA FUNDADO EN 1882
reverse 1/-
25 mm ; white metal
JSalgado





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 Posted 07/26/2008  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear Grace Outcast
This is another piece about no answers.I am trying specialized in "unknow tokens of world".It seems impossible! I am still waiting...JSalgado
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 Posted 07/26/2008  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, my guess is it's a token for use in a shop associated with a school.
See: http://www.liceoeuropa.com/
I don't know how the Spanish used to notate their money, but "1/-" would have meant "one shilling" to anyone familiar with pre-decimal British currency.
Peter
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 Posted 07/26/2008  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately
this college Liceo Europeo from Zaragoza (Spain) was established in 1982 http://www.liceo-europeo.es/);there are a little difference
in the designation LICEO EUROPA.
I send an email to the Director last year but I didn't have received any answer.JSalgado
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 Posted 07/27/2008  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse is clearly in the same style as that of many British, Australian and South African club tokens and check-pieces issued from the late 1800's to the mid 1900's, and as Peter said, the 1/- is clearly a British denomination, one shilling. I'm pretty sure the same symbol wasn't used for any of the Spanish currencies.

But the Spanish on the other side is confusing to me - "liceo" is Spanish for "high school" in Spain and in other Spanish-speaking areas, and "fundado" means "founded".

At the time, Britain didn't control or own any Spanish-speaking areas, so there were no places during that time period when British money was being used by a Spanish-speaking populace. Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands don't really count, because hardly anyone there spoke Spanish at the time.

I think the most likely explanation is that it's from a private school in Britain (or perhaps one of the other colonies), where expatriate Spanish people (embassy families etc.) could send their children to the "European school" and be taught in their native language. If that's true, the tokens may have been used in the school canteen.

Of course, without evidence that any such school actually existed, I'm only guessing.
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 Posted 07/27/2008  04:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap, thanks a lot for your message. In Spain the word "Liceo" also is related the society like a casino (playing cards).
The reverse of 1 Shilling can conclude that it could have been used in a lesson to learn the currencies English in a spanish college
(maybe in South America)!!These are only hypotheses.JSalgado
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 Posted 07/27/2008  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, a Society or Club makes much more sense. Many of the tokens I mentioned earlier from Australia etc. were issued by clubs, for use in their canteens and/or in gambling machines. Here in Australia the German Clubs in Brisbane and Sydney issued tokens; I presume this was issued by a Spanish-speaking "European Club".
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 Posted 10/06/2008  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valutarick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Parsifal:: Richard Wagner built the Liceo, also known as Liceo Europa, near the town of Bayreuth In Germany in 1882. Parsifal was the first opera in the Ring der Nibelungen. 1/ was also used in some parts of Germany as a note for groschen, first used in Hannover in 1840's.
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 Posted 09/02/2009  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Afrasi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are not much places in the world, where you speak Spanish and pay British. I know only one. And - what a chance - there exists a Liceo Europa in the town's agglomeration: Gibraltar

Afrasi
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 Posted 11/20/2020  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In "The Tokens and Checks of Gibraltar" 2010 I found a similar token of 6 Pence!
However I'm happy because after some time I managed to find the reference I so desired.



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 Posted 11/20/2020  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here the images of my token for 1 Shilling.


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 Posted 11/21/2020  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Afrasi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations! Great token!
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 Posted 11/22/2020  04:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalgado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Afrasi, Many thanks!
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