Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsSpecializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer 300,000 items to help build your collection!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

I Broke A Coin

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 3,943Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
Arael's Avatar
United States
567 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  9:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Arael to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Man this is rough guys. I was handling a coin by an incredibly thin part of the planchet, and a bit of it snapped off. I won't lie and say I don't feel a little guilty for breaking part of history. But I suppose it happens. Perhaps it can be a lesson to us all.
Pillar of the Community
Numisma's Avatar
United States
4963 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What coin was it?
Pillar of the Community
Arael's Avatar
United States
567 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is what remains of it, it was a hemidrachm from Corinth.

I-Broke-A-Coin

I-Broke-A-Coin
Pillar of the Community
Kamnaskires's Avatar
United States
7066 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, I was going to ask if it was AR, and now see that it was. It may well have had some internal crystallization, which of course can make a coin very brittle and susceptible to breaking.

Sorry about the experience. Too bad...
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've had it happen on a bronze coin slipped out of my hand and fell on a hard surface. Sorry that happened, you might be able to put it together with a little super glue.
Pillar of the Community
Broken-Coin's Avatar
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A genuine Broken Coin
Pillar of the Community
Numisma's Avatar
United States
4963 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^ I think you may have found a buyer.
Bedrock of the Community
sel_69l's Avatar
Australia
21788 Posts
 Posted 10/25/2015  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You don't want to loose the parts.
There is no loss in value in this case, if you stick it back together with Super Glue; the loss in value has already been sustained.

This coin is almost certainly a victim of silver crystallization, which often cannot be detected with a simple visual inspection.

Silver crystallization is most often found with ancient coins, because it can take centuries for the crystallization to come about.

Occasionally, silver crystallization can be recognized by tiny parallel ridging on the surface of the coin.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Same applies with Roman glassware.
It MUST be handled with great care. Glass is a supercooled liquid, where the liquid freezes on cooling, before crystals of glass have a chance to form. However, over centuries, like silver, glass can very slowly crystallize, thus greatly weakening the material.
Pillar of the Community
Numisma's Avatar
United States
4963 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
There is no loss in value in this case


I'm familiar with ancients, and this doesn't exactly make sense to me. Are people really willing to pay just as much for a coin held together with superglue?
Bedrock of the Community
sel_69l's Avatar
Australia
21788 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are not paying just as much for an unbroken coin,
you are paying just as much as for a broken coin.

Repairing a coin in no way improves it's value.
Pillar of the Community
Numisma's Avatar
United States
4963 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
the loss in value has already been sustained.

I guess I missed that part.
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The loss of value occurred when the coin broke, repairing the coin as Sel states does not improves it's value. It only preservers it to before it was broken. If the coin was to be resold the restoration should be told to the buyer.
Bedrock of the Community
sel_69l's Avatar
Australia
21788 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never repaired a crystallized coin but
I would think such a repair would be very easily seen under a 10 x loupe.

Nevertheless with such a coin, especially if eBayed, it should be noted that it has been repaired.

Arael: I guess that this story should teach us all,
that when handling ancient silver coins,
it follows that they all should be handled with care.

You never know for sure which ancient silver coin has suffered, or has not suffered, from from silver crystallization.
Edited by sel_69l
10/26/2015 07:24 am
Pillar of the Community
Arael's Avatar
United States
567 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it's certainly been a valuable lesson. I think that I will leave it in it's broken state as a reminder and lesson to myself. We can't change the past, that coin has broken and that's how it shall remain, and I can just hope to not do it again.
Pillar of the Community
Broken-Coin's Avatar
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1) The only reason I do not collect Ancient Coins is because I focused my education the last 20 years on error coins & currency and not educated enough to know the difference between real and fake Ancients.. And with ebay allowing fakes of darn near everything being sold so they get their piece of the sale, I find it easier to just avoid them. Lord knows how many fake cutting errors made from sheets currently on ebay is disgusting, and when I send the seller a message, along with uncut currency sheet verification, they ignore the message.

#2) In my opinion I would place all three pieces in a Eagle or Silver Dollar cardboard holder.. I would think that glueing it together would lose eye appeal and value, then again, I do not know the coins history or value, and as a error collector that posted a double strike Ancient that NGC body bagged as unknown on this forum a couple years back, was ID'ed almost instantly here by the experts & surprised that NGC did not holder the coin.

#3) my user name Broken-Coin is what my granddaughter called multi-struck error coins when she was about 3 or 4 years old...
Pillar of the Community
Numisma's Avatar
United States
4963 Posts
 Posted 10/26/2015  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Lord knows how many fake cutting errors made from sheets currently on ebay is disgusting


You can tell based on serial numbers, can't you?
  Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 3,943Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.38 seconds to rattle this change. Forums