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Help Identifying A Good Luck Token (Id: Hobo/Jewish Nickel Token)

 
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 Posted 02/24/2016  01:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Anyone have an idea of what this is? It measures 24 mm in diameter. It came together with a German Notgeld coin dated 1918, but I have no idea whether it's related to the other coin.




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 Posted 02/24/2016  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse reminds me of a hobo nickel carving while the reverse features the universal pawnbroker's symbol of three suspended spheres.
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 Posted 02/24/2016  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
184 pages to look through,good luck ( pun intended )
http://tokencatalog.com/display_rec...All+Listings
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 Posted 02/24/2016  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Circus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears to be a generic style in the pattern of the hobo nickle as said. With the reverse a pawn brokers old style universal signage of the 3 hanging balls or globes. With out any one having one with an attributed source it will problematic to give a exact source
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 Posted 02/24/2016  07:58 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back in the '30s these were given out to hobos that brought in items to be sold/pawned. When the hobo later found this in their pocket, they were reminded to go back to the pawn shop with more stuff.

No, I made that up.
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 Posted 02/24/2016  08:18 am  Show Profile   Check captainrich's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add captainrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Back in the '30s these were given out to hobos that brought in items to be sold/pawned. When the hobo later found this in their pocket, they were reminded to go back to the pawn shop with more stuff.

No, I made that up


Good one, nss-52. You really had my blood pressure rising and my head shaking with that first line. It's not even April Fool's Day yet!



BTW, I believe the OP's token is just a generic Good Luck charm meant to be carried as a pocket piece.
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 Posted 02/24/2016  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tech418 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello. That coin is very unique. I have never seen anything quite like it. Good luck with it. J
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 Posted 02/24/2016  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nss-52, loved the story about the hobos and pawn shops. You had me believing it for a moment!

Thanks to biokemist6 and Circus for identifying the pawnbroker symbol. I hadn't known that before. And John1, that's a great token reference site, but I'm not sure I have the patience to sift through 184 pages of good luck tokens...!
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 Posted 02/24/2016  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found a reference to this one (see photo), saying it was "$18 on eBay".

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 Posted 02/24/2016  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RogerRamjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With three similar but slightly different designs, and all appearing to be hand carved, my guess is that they are something that one person made to pass the time. If they are hand carved, they are more like hobo nickels than machine produced good luck tokens. With a diameter of 24 mm, yours is larger than a nickel. If it had a reeded edge, it could have been a US quarter but I suspect it began as a generic blank planchet.
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 Posted 02/25/2016  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, nss-52, for finding those photo references, and to everyone for pointing me in the right direction. I did some more sleuthing and found an article in a Numismatic Bibliomania Society publication last year about hobo nickels, including this excerpt:

MORE ON HOBO NICKELS AND ETHNIC SLURS

Last week Bob Leonard wrote:

The ethnic slur nature of the original "hobo nickels" has been swept under the rug by modern collectors, but it is established by the existence of pot metal tokens imitating this design on the obverse, with the pawnbroker's three balls on the reverse.

Bob Van Arsdell provided the above image of the piece referred to. He provides the dimensions as:

Weight: 6.7419 gms
Diameter: 23.62 mm



So it looks like my token is definitely a hobo nickel token, probably made from cast zinc. I appreciate everyone's help in identifying it!

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In case anyone happens across this post and wants more information: SSoIH - The Jewish Nickel - https://ssoih.com/jewishnickel/
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