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 Posted 02/28/2008  3:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add FordF150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Will acetone take those black charcoal looking spots off of copper pennies?I imagine you all have old pennies with black spots ,I tried olive oil ,it wont touch it.
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 Posted 02/28/2008  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ceaton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've tried acetone and had no luck. I guess it all depends on what the black spot really contains. I'd definetely like to see a safe solution to this.

ON the same subject, anyone know a safe way to remove waterspots on newer pennies, 90's and up?
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 Posted 02/28/2008  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never used acetone, but ceaton is right, it depends on what it is. If it is organic, the acetone will work. If it is some sort of oxidation or chemical reaction with the copper, then it won't.
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 Posted 02/28/2008  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FordF150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I'm talking about the oxidation stains .I didn't figure it would ,I doubt if anything will.
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Yeah, nothing worse then a beautiful penny with a minor black spots that sticks out like a sore thumb and bugs you until you replace it :(

I have way too many of those, its starting to cost too much $$
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 Posted 02/28/2008  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Soak in Dill Pickle juice .To make stronger add vinegar .

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 Posted 02/28/2008  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pickle juice and vinegar are mild acids.

I strongly recommend not putting coins in any sort of acid.
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Yeah, that definately sucks..... as has been said here before... "They are death to other coins"..... and I keep them seperate from the good ones. Bad apples can spoil the whole bunch ! I don't try to clean them.....I just don't use them....but I still keep them !
Oxidation is basically "metal removed" and gone forever.....depending on how bad it is.
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The black spots are not on the coins they are in the coins ,, they do not come off ,,or at least I have never found anything that will remove then without damaging the coin .

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Soak in Dill Pickle juice .To make stronger add vinegar .
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Rainman

I know you must be kidding but you have to add a smiling face or someone may actually try that and ruin a great coin. Similar to Especially the Vinegar part. Everyone knows that this contains a minimum of 4% Acetic Acid and that will actually quickly combine with any Copper in a coin to form Cu(C2H3O2)2-H(OH) or Cu(CH3CO2)2-H(OH)= Copper Acetate, depending on how long of an exposure.
Pickel juices are as eratic as any product where you have no idea in the world what it contains.
As noted almost any Acid could substantially ruin a coin.
As to the use of Olive Oils on any coins for any reason. DO NOT DO THAT. That product is an Oil and will leave a deposit on the coins. Then you would have to use Acetone to remove that and then rinse with distilled water.
IF, and I stress IF, you are not very concerned as to the value of a coin that has spots of any kind and Acetone does not work, in my many experiments I have found a product at Walmart that is sold in the jewlery department for cleaning jewlery. It will take some of those spots off a coin but will really make it shine and appear as harshly cleaned. But will take SOME, not all of those type of spots off. And, that coin would now be considered CLEANED.
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 Posted 02/29/2008  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This'll do it. Make sure lighting is at least 75 watts

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Rainman might be the fellow that the other day said "he puts 82 pennies in his mouth to see if they are zinc.
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 Posted 02/29/2008  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man I feel like a Like the community idiot of the day .What are we talking about here nothing of great value but a 3 cent wheaty .All I asked was that you try it .I have and it works with some coin damage like surface spots . Yes Pickle juice is a acid an it erodes the metal content from the Coin depending on the contact time .What is the harm of trying to enhance a coin that is already damaged ?Quote:Metalman The black spots are not on the coins they are in the coins ,, they do not come off ,,or at least I have never found anything that will remove then without damaging the coin .n

FordF150 (Funny)But you may want to reread the post your referring to .(I drop Coins)

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You must of missed the other thread then. One guy will put 1982 pennies in his mouth to see which one is copper, apparently he can taste the difference lol...
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Rainman..u aight, mainz. No worries.
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Rainman: Not picking on you. Just mentioning that if your joking you should put a smiling face or something so new to the forums or coin collecting will know. And if your not joking, please, please look up more statistics on what your saying. As noted, yes, it is POSSIBLE to remove those spots but not without damaging the coin and sometimes excessively. If those spots are now part of the coin due to a chemical reaction, then the removing of the spots removes part of the coin. You could even use a drill and drill the spots off and out and they will be gone. An Arc welder torch will also remove the spots.
As I said you are not being picked on. Just explaining the actual statistics of what is being said.
And as for Pickel Juices or anything else that is or may not be consistant. Remember that every jar of pickel juice may be completely different than the last one. Even during the during processes of Pickels, each batch may differ considerably. This would indicate that one batch may be considerably more acidic than the last. This is why what may work for one person once may distroy something that others attempt the same way.
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