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lexcoins New Member Israel 7 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 1:11 pm hello everybody. i bought this thaler on ebay and I'm trying to figure if it's authentic coin. weight: 22.18 gr diameter: 34.5 acording to krause catalog is or KM# 208 or KM# 209.1 the weight suppose to be 16.820 both of them. at first I thought this is an obvious fake because the weight dont fit but later I found some of those: http://www.ma-shops.com/pollandt/it...&curr=EURSGD http://www.ebay.com/itm/GERMANY-ALE...AOSwBLlU25qb i dont think those are faked but..... the seller just said it's called Angsttaler and something in german. what do you guys think? alexey Report this Post to the Staff

lexcoins New Member Israel 7 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 1:14 pm * Edited by Staff - Please review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. * Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2874 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 1:43 pm Coin looks fine - Mine is 22.23g My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
lexcoins New Member Israel 7 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 1:48 pm do you know the KM#? i just cant find the coin in krause katalog Report this Post to the Staff
cara Valued Member Uruguay 217 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 4:14 pm From Numista: Country German states (Hannover) Years 1842-1849 Value 1 Reichsthaler = 1/14 Cologne Mark (1) Metal Silver (.750) Weight 22.272 g Diameter 33 mm Thickness 2 mm Shape Round Orientation Medal alignment Demonetized yes References KM# 197 Edited by cara 09/05/2016 4:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
lexcoins New Member Israel 7 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 4:56 pm to cara: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25503.html this is not it.... it more like this but the weight is different http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25503.html Report this Post to the Staff
lexcoins New Member Israel 7 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 4:57 pm sorry bad link. this http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33391.html Report this Post to the Staff
cara Valued Member Uruguay 217 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 5:06 pm Lexcoins, you are right! Sorry Report this Post to the Staff
cara Valued Member Uruguay 217 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 5:20 pm Metal Silver (.993), weight 16.82 g ,Diameter 34 mm, Thickness 3 mm ? I think Numista is wrong in this case. No way !! Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 09/05/2016 11:11 pm That must be a typo. A thaler at 16.8 grams normal reference weight? Nope. It was a standard unit of measurement, which was adjusted over time but in 1849 22.2 was the norm. Even the last of the German thalers in the 1860's up to 1871 were still at 18.5 grams. Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2874 Posts	Posted 09/06/2016 04:54 am Krause has many errors. People just copy from it without checking - I've done it myself. This coin should be just over 22g My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
GERMANICVS Pillar of the Community Germany 1849 Posts	Posted 09/06/2016 08:01 am Per my catalogue (A.K.S) dealing specifically with german coins of this era, Hannover Talers should weigh as follows: Period Weight,g Silver Content, % Net Silver content, g 1834 - 1856: 22,272 75% 16,704 1834 - 1840: 16,821 99,356% 16,704 1857 - 1866: 18,519 90% 16,667 The O.P coin belongs in the 1st category. Catalogued as A.K.S 107 in german references. Edited by GERMANICVS 09/06/2016 08:02 am Report this Post to the Staff
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