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What is your opinion ? If the American dollar tanks completely, then the Amero Dollar could be put into place. What will happen to the numismatic value of our U.S.coins? Silver and Gold would be safe, but what about all the numismatics and modern coins that have no real intrinsic value...what happens to them? Will those coins end up no more than relics of our history with no true monetary value? Thanks, Laura  |
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Amero Dollar = North America, South America, and Canada?
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We will have much bigger things to worry about when that happens.
Notice I did not say IF that happens.
It will happen. Fiat money always ends bad. The people who "tweak" the system can only tweak it so far before their efforts have not effect. I believe we are in that phase right now.
We need to return to sound money. The sooner the better. We will not be able to finance perpetual war and ever growing government but that is a trade I for one am willing to make.
Is this the proper forum for this thread?
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Pillar of the Community
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The Amero is the currency for the globalist North American Union of the U.S., Canada and Mexico.
Federal Reserve notes are unconstitutional fiat currency that have done nothing but decline in value since the Federal Reserve Act was passed in late 1913.
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The Amero is nothing more than fantasy  |
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If that wouild happen, that would make Mexico not cheap anymore? Not sure how it affects the economy totally but it would really make for a more even trade in goods I would think. At least somewhat. It'd be even more devastating to our economy than we are going now and that's pretty bad already.
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Forum Dad
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The Amero is nothing more than fantasy
And started by one of our members! |
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It's always interesting to me when people start talking about fiat currency. I could be wrong, but isn't every currency currently circulating(say that fast 3 times) in the world fiat currency? To get back to the original question, I think that if the dollar tanks completely the numismatic value of US coins will be of little to no importance. If the value of the dollar goes to zero we will more than likely be in a world based on survival of the fittest. |
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yes and the lies and untruthfulness had become so wide spread in the American public that he was even asked to appear on some talk shows to clear up the HUGE misunderstanding that had started about his fantasy piece that he called "The AMERO Dollar"
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Yes the world is on a fiat system of money.
And there has never been more poor people on the planet.
The middle class and the poor are getting squeezed. The middle class is typically too proud to look to the government for help so they silently become poor. Then the poor rise up and well, you have all sorts of problems.
The founders of America wanted to stop the Tyranny <-----> Anarchy pendulum from swinging like it has done for all of human history. They found a balance point between the two and attempted to bind the government down to that point by "wrapping the chains of the constitution around it". They made provisions for changing the constitution but made it very difficult to do so and for good reason.
Now we just ignore that document as if it were worth nothing more than the parchment it was written on.
And the pendulum started to swing once again...
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This subject has brought many interesting and heated responses, however, I don't think my original question has been answered.
Thanks,
Laura
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well to answer all questions asked: If the dollar tanks (more than it already has and becomes more worthless) the Amero dollar will still be a fantasy piece and in my opinion will never become a legal tender that is issued by the government. The modern coins that are made of modern junk material will probably be just that, a nice conversation piece but with not allot of value otherwise about the same as with other countries that have changed their coinage (like pre-decimal and decimal coins) which made their old coins pretty much worthless except for collectors who collected them. Of course this is just my personal opinion and is definitely not meant to be taken as gospel but I feel that you can look at what happened with other countries money when they changed from one kind to another whether it be paper notes or coins they all seem to follow the same fate, still there will be collectors that will collect them but as far as monetary value they are pretty much worthless
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And started by one of our members!
Seriously? I have heard about the idea of the 'Amero' or its equivilant for a while. (like since G.H.W. Bush was in office and the creation of NAFTA) quote:
And there has never been more poor people on the planet.
Maybe in shear numbers, but as a percent I think that assumption is entirely false. But if you want to go by shear numbers, one could just a off-handedly say that there have never been more rich people on the planet... quote:
The middle class is typically too proud to look to the government for help so they silently become poor.
No, no, no, no, no. The poor are typically too lazy to help themselves, and the government is too willing to support them in this 'effort'. While the middle class is too proud to give up, or fight, and they are taxed to the poor house. All the while these criminals politicians use poeple like the poor to pull on people's heart strings until society thinks they should be giving 50% of their hard earned money to the government. Then the government turns around and raises the minimum wage, which increases inflation, yet narrowing the gap between the poor and the middle yet some more. We should just as soon annex Mexico and Canada as have a single North American Currency. Mexico would probably start drooling just thinking about this possibility. Canada probably really wouldn't like the idea as soon they will have the dominant currency on the continent, and if Canada was gone what country would Americans say they were from when they traveled abroad? A bit of hyperbole, but from what I have always heard the 'Amero' conspiracy (if you will) actually has some facts behind it. But I really don't know... For everything that was wrong with Ron Paul, he has some very valid points. to the OP: I dont know for sure, look and see what happened when they formed the Euro, and also what happened to the Soviet Rouble ? when the Soviet Union collapsed |
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Thoughts and theories regarding the "Amero" have been around much longer than the fantasy work of Danial Carr. I personal recall hearing the term for the first time about a decade ago (can't recall exactly but I know I was still in middle school) Granted, mostly "amero" talks have taken place in conspiracy related terms, but the idea nevertheless has been around for quite a while. The name of the system is not always the "Amero"--I've heard many ranging from "NAFTA Dollar" to "Continential Dollar" to "NWO Dollar"...just different names for the same theorized beast. I do not believe, however, Carr had/has anything to do with the actually "Amero" that our governments plan for us. He simply reached the same conclusion that they did--he deemed it fantasy and they want it reality.
I even heard mention of the "Amero" the other night on a Main Stream Network (can't recall the program or channel--they all look the same to me). Our best hope will be for our Brothers to the North to hold out and keep their coinage alive and well and not to get onto our sinking ship.
but anyways to get back to the question at hand........
If the "Amero" comes to pass, I agree with some the other members...the current system will become much like the Australian System. Nice coins with collector value. They will be forgotten rather quickly by the masses, but they will survive in private collections and as relics of museums.
--Gary
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03/11/2008 5:35 pm
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No, no, no, no, no. The poor are typically too lazy to help themselves, and the government is too willing to support them in this 'effort'.
 I do not think North America would be well served by a unified currency. The Euro "works" because the European Union is akin to a United States of Europe (one can argue whether or not it is the American or European States that retain the most sovereignty in the respective unions, but that is way off topic). Imagine if each US State had its own money... The Euro, in theory, makes trading between the citizens of member states more efficient by eliminating the need for currency exchange. No one currency was dominant in Europe, whereas in NA, you'd be hard pressed to find someone in Canada or Mexico that would not take US Dollars (at least, before the recent crash). Lastly, the Euro unites 27 sovereign states, whereas the Amero would only unite three. Mathematically, the efficiency gained is insignificant. |
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