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 Posted 11/08/2016  11:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I had 10 of these and have VAM'd the first 5 or so, but this one has me stumped. Looks like a HIGH O, centered and upright, but that's as far as I can get. Looks like a normal closed 9 date. Can't find a single die crack. Would be grateful for any point in the right direction. My best guess is VAM 13. It has all the die polishing features, etc, but no die cracks, is that possible? Thanks, Ed



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 Posted 11/08/2016  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
04o really isn't my bag and I don't have time to check VW right now, it's vote time baby! But that's one heck of a high O. Chute72 is an 04o guy. Maybe send him a PM.
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 Posted 11/09/2016  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VAM 13 EDS - date position is correct, heavy die polishing lines present in motto, in wreath bow and around the bow and at the left wing-neck gap, O MM is high, upright and centered.
Note that on VW the VAM 13 plate coin listed as EDS I would consider to be E-MDS. Your coin still retains some prooflike surfaces on the reverse. Die cracks do not a VAM make, with a few exceptions.

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 Posted 11/09/2016  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paralyse is correct, and especially about the cracks on VAM-13. In later stages, it is so distinct that VAMmers tend to rely on it for identification.
Maybe later I can get a few detailed photos of some details, just so you can see some features that don't change with die age.
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 Posted 11/09/2016  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few file marks that are unique to the VAM-13.









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 Posted 11/09/2016  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the LDS there is a prominent die crack that goes from the first right star to the hair.



Less obvious is a crack through the hair bun.

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 Posted 11/10/2016  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome, thanks guys. And thanks for the photos. I'll check on some of those file marks. Ed
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