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How Far Back Can We Go? Fourth Edition! We Need - 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864) -

 
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 Posted 09/10/2019  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes some amazing pieces by some of our European members over on the 5th edition. I actually agree @j1m that the 5th edition thread will stall before it catches up to this one.
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I am a bit more optimistic. I just depends on whether or not the participants of the last thirty years bring their goods to number five.
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I am a bit more optimistic. I just depends on whether or not the participants of the last thirty years bring their goods to number five.
They cannot, and you know that very well indeed. The gaps are 1480 and 1473.

(I checked that all the other years up to 1461 are represented by participants who can show up in the Fifth Edition, but it doesn't appear that those two are.)
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They cannot, and you know that very well indeed.
Perhaps if I would have looked as you did.

Optimism cancelled.
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 Posted 10/07/2019  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BUMP!

We Need - 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864) -

Any new members or new purchases out there?
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 Posted 10/07/2019  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not from me, but it is on my list.
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I've been adding some late 1400s coins since the last edition (and even have a bid in on one right now), but won't go outside my current collecting themes, so I will never be a hard core OFEY guy as we get to the tough dates.
As for my medieval collecting areas:
Poland ends at 1506 or 1507, depending on your definition, so that doesn't help at all...
Brabant ends at 1474 ...a little better. One of the tougher dates is up at auction right now, but is pricey because of the nice condition.
I have a "saints" theme that might go earlier, but at pretty significant cost, because I think it mostly goes to gold for the early years (like dated German goldguldens with John the Baptist).
I don't have Levinson, so I'm not sure what to chase before 1474 that has an image of a saint on it, and hence would fit this theme.
Suggestions welcome.
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The expected gaps, assuming that everyone except the unfortunate @louie posts their coins from the current thread, are 1480, 1473, and (the current gap) 1460.

There are several Brabant types for 1480, so it is not unlikely that @tdziemia already has one of those.
There don't appear to be any dated 1473 or 1460 coins with saints on them, but it's possible that there are some undated coins featuring saints attributable to that year.

Unfortunately, 1473 AD is inconveniently placed for a Muslim date conversion, as the boundary between AH years falls somewhere in June or July; despite some googling I was not able to quickly determine which AH year (if any) corresponds to this AD year.

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Poland ends at 1506 or 1507, depending on your definition
Some catalogues still say 1504, but apparently the "1504" variety is just a weirdly placed die break in the 1506 date.
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There are several Brabant types for 1480, so it is not unlikely that @tdziemia already has one of those.

I have added a few pre-1500 Brabant coins in the last year, but not a 1480. I was beat in the recent Kunker auction by 1 bid increment. I am not unhappy because the winning bid was rather pricey. I hope it was someone who is active on CCF


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but it's possible that there are some undated coins

I need to keep remembering this. There are a couple of undated 1485 Brabant coins, and also one dated type. I know there is also an undated 1409 type, but I have not done a complete search of dates in the mid-1400s.


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Poland ends at 1506 or 1507, depending on your definition
Some catalogues still say 1504, but apparently the "1504" variety is just a weirdly placed die break in the 1506 date.

The earliest dated coin from a Polish mint is the 1507 1/2 groat. However, Polish collectors also try for the 1506 groat issued in Swidnica (Silesia) under Sigismund while he was a prince of Silesia, just one year before he became king of Poland. Whilst most of Silesia is today a part of Poland, in 1506 Silesia was a vassal of Bohemia, not Poland.
Confusing to say the least.
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The expected gaps, assuming that everyone except the unfortunate @louie posts their coins from the current thread, are 1480...


I picked up a 1480-dated coin this fall and am poised to post it when the 5th edition gets there later this year.
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I picked up a 1480-dated coin this fall and am poised to post it when the 5th edition gets there later this year.
Yay!

Hopefully someone would have something from 1473 by then...
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I picked up a 1480-dated coin this fall and am poised to post it when the 5th edition gets there later this year.
Excellent!

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Hopefully someone would have something from 1473 by then...
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