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1943 D & S Lincoln Wheat Cents For Opinions

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So truth be told, I don't recall ever seeing a mint state steel cent in person before and all the ones I have are fairly rough-looking. I wanted to get a couple good examples to diversify and came across these. My first question is do you think the surfaces are original?

If so, what would you grade them if the pictures are good enough?

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Both appear to be reprocessed.

By reprocessed, it means that the zinc coating along with any rust, is stripped off with chemicals. The coin is then rinsed, dried and then replated with a new zinc coating. Most of the reprocessed cents I've seen have a mirror-like bluish coloring. They look too good to be true.

Original steel cents have an almost matte looking finish that is silver colored in appearance.

I'll try to post some pictures later.
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Yes reprocessed. Here is an original coin...

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Yep, Repo's. You can tell by how the coatingbis "globby", take a look at the D and around the edges of LIBERTY. the too shiney look as well.the best natural I have is an AU58, has a dulled flat shine, like said above, a matte finish. The original zinc coating wasn't verybthick to begin with.
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I have one with a decent reverse from an old album I bought. It still had a modest strip of original luster.

That's why I thought these were suspect. It's easier for me with alloy cents but, like I said, I've never seen a true MS Steelie before in person and thought maybe it was a result of the zinc-plating process.

The term "thick" (thanks Crazyb0) makes tremendous sense. The zinc plating looks too thick to be original.

I should know better, but hey, I'm still learning. Thanks for the input!
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Yes reprocessed , you can tell by high gloss shine .
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Agree, both replated.
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Excellent question, in part because there are so many reprocessed steel Lincoln cents for sale on ebay.

In addition to zinc, some 1943 cents are coated with chrome.

With the help of awesome CCF members, I wrote this ebay Guide article on the topic:

Reprocessed 1943 Steel Lincoln Cents

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Good!
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So my next question is: what is to be done with these?

My best thought was to keep them as examples of what to avoid.

Also, thanks for creating/posting that guide dd27!
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Got grankids? They'll lose 'em for ya!

Gave one to mine, munchkin lost it under back seat on way home, couldn't reach w/ magnet!
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Nope, no grandkids. Although, I did see it mentioned in dd27's guide that some seek these. I looked up some sold listings for reprocessed '43's and found a handful that sold for about $2-$3 for a single coin. I was definitely surprised.

But, I generally like to make it worth the fees when selling on the Bay and I don't think these fit. Maybe I'll just complain to the seller and get at least a partial refund and keep them so I have a comparison.
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Photos are too dark to really be able to tell .
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So my next question is: what is to be done with these?


You could trying selling five or ten at a time, to deal with the ebay fees.

They seem to show up in larger lots of wheat cents for sale on the Bay. Thus far, I have either given them to kids (or their parents), or I have spent them. It's fun to see the expression on people's faces, and some of the reactions. My favorite is: "I'm sorry sir, we don't accept Canadian pennies."

~ Mark

P.S. Thanks so much for the kind words on the ebay Guide I wrote. If you run across the thread here on CCF, you'll see how much superb advice I received from members when I shared an early draft of the article here.
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My favorite is: "I'm sorry sir, we don't accept Canadian pennies."




Here are a few more pics that might show just how shiny these guys are:

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Yes I have one of these and you can see the old gouges under the new plating.
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