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Does that help with the identification of the third coin. Are you still leaning towards edward the first or now Edward the 2nd?
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When talking cartwheel pennies you talk about Aussie proclamation coins.
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quote: Originally posted by KLD
Does that help with the identification of the third coin. Are you still leaning towards edward the first or now Edward the 2nd?
I'm still leaning towards Edward I for that one. (3rd coin? You mean third picture but second coin I presume?) I presumed the first two pictures were of the same coin, one being reverse one, being obverse! The reverse doesn't usually tell you a great deal (some odd types can), although generally it tells you nothing except the mint which can be useful, except for London/Canterbury mints were active through out though and are of no help whatsoever. Generally it's all worked out from the obverse. Although say it had been Reading mint or something then that'd narrow it down to just a few classes.
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All coins say Civitas london.
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quote: Originally posted by KLD
All coins say Civitas london.
That's find I won't need the reverse of coin 2 then. But I do need the obverse side of coin 1. Coin 2, can you get a bigger picture of the obverse because I can't really identify it any more clearly that late Edward I with such small pictures. Coin 3 is definately in the 10C-10F category, I've had no success as yet with anyone else helping me on the attributing there so I'm gonna sit and study it for an hour or so against the pictures.
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hi all, I'm not too sure what to do.... I inherited a couple of coin collections, I was just going to sell them together but after having a closer look at them there is a couple that I think may be quite rare.. the first is a one penny dated 1912 enscribed georgivs v dei gra britt:omn rex, the reason I thought it was different is that there is no lighthouse in the back ground on the brittania picture? is this normal? The second is a coin dated 1806, enscribed georgius III D.G REX, the brittania picture is holding the trident behind her.. any ideas if they are worth much? thanks for your help!
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oh and the brittania side is upside down compared to the georgius side on the 1806 coin?
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Britannia should be upside down in comparison to George, as is normal on British coins up until 1887. There should also be no lighthouse as lighthouses didn't make their appearance until 1860.
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quote: Originally posted by Ętheling
quote: Originally posted by KLD
All coins say Civitas london.
That's find I won't need the reverse of coin 2 then. But I do need the obverse side of coin 1.
Coin 2, can you get a bigger picture of the obverse because I can't really identify it any more clearly that late Edward I with such small pictures.
Coin 3 is definately in the 10C-10F category, I've had no success as yet with anyone else helping me on the attributing there so I'm gonna sit and study it for an hour or so against the pictures.
I have tried a better picture of coin 2 with no luck, will keep trying. Any thoughts on coin 1 ? With coin 3 if it is 10c to 10f would that not make it a edward 1? Once again many thanks for your help. Lars
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Coin 3 I've finally got verification from another hammered collector on this and he seems to think it's Class 10D, I am inclined to agree. Initially I said 10F but there's not much between them, differences as follows;
10D = As your coin 10E = As 10D but slightly fatter face, shorter neck 10F = As 10E but fatter cross on crown.
The crown looked a bit dumpy and the face looked a bit on the broader side, but then again that could all be wear. The other collector has more experience than I do and he says 10D, so I'm happy to go along with that. So Coin 3 was struck in the 1302-1310 period.
Edited by Ętheling 03/05/2006 06:18 am
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quote: Originally posted by KLD
I have tried a better picture of coin 2 with no luck, will keep trying.
Any thoughts on coin 1 ?
I'll have another go at coin 2 later. Coin 1, coins can only be identified from the obverse, so since there's only a reverse shot of that I can't do anything about that as yet. Coin 2 shouldn't prove too difficult (he says). 
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Ah sorted it!
Right Coin 3 as 10D (which it is), narrower face, longer neck.
Coin 2 is of the 10D-F range, however, as you'll note the face is squarer than on coin 3, which means it's the 10E-F range. The crown is different to that of coin 3, (if the crown had been the same then it would be a 10E coin), but as the crown is different it's therefore a 10F coin!
I did consider it being Class 11C (which is the ONLY Edward II class to say EDWAR, rather than EDWARR) however, there are some major differences there, notably the A in EDWA is totally different on the 11C than it is on yours as looks more like an upside down 'Y' than the 'T' yours has.
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Coin 2 = 10F Coin 3 = 10D
Coin 1 I need the obverse picture.
Edited by Ętheling 03/05/2006 06:41 am
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Aetheling thankyou very much for your time and effort. If I can repay the favour please let me know. Coin #1 Picture to come http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c...dwardrev.jpgCoin 2 and 3? I am a bit confused. Am I correct in saying 10F and 10D are both from the period 1302 to 1310? But Edward the first died in 1307. So would my coins be Edward the 1st? and Edward the 2 coins did not start minting untill 1310 (3 year after the start of his reign?)
Edited by KLD 03/05/2006 6:32 pm
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