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1791 "Industry" Token

 
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 Posted 04/07/2017  5:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm told this is a commonly encountered piece, but I find it a bit enigmatic. It's clearly "Conder" type coinage, and from its size and composition it can be deduced that it might've been valued as a halfpenny, but on the other hand there's no marking denoting its denomination nor any instruction for its exchange or redemption.





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 Posted 04/07/2017  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Check alganbagerap's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No edge marking? The one constant problem with Industry type tokens is the bees. There seem to be varieties of most of them depending on the number of bees. I've gone half blind trying to count them, and obviously it gets even worse with the farthings.
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 Posted 04/07/2017  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No edge marking?


Afraid not, just a somewhat crude angled "reeding" all the way around.



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 Posted 04/07/2017  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Check alganbagerap's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it's a Scottish token, from Glasgow, but I've not come across it with the bees reverse before. Wonder if it's a mule.
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 Posted 01/18/2021  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

After all this time I've still never gotten a handle on this particular halfpenny "Conder" token, so I thought I'd bump it back up into the mix for further opinions. The most common ones depicting the "Clyde River God" I've researched and see cataloged have the coat of arms of Glascow on the other side, albeit there are other reverses noted, such as a bust of Howard, a ship, and Britannia, but no beehive types that I can find.

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It is a mule and is listed as Dalton & Hamer as Cambridgeshire 16. The problem with mules is that they really need to be listed under two places - the river god with the urn from which the river Clyde is flowing is definitely more Glasgow than Cambridgeshire.

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