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1942 Wheat Penny Weighing 3.30 Grams

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 Posted 06/17/2017  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Uh, probably not.
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 Posted 06/17/2017  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artstaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you guys for your knowledge. I will keep it with my other wheat pennies.
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 Posted 06/18/2017  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it had weighed 4 grams or more I'd say yes. Being just .05 grams out of spec I'd say no.
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 Posted 08/03/2018  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doogie309 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a rare error for 1942 pennies struck on wrong planchette. Accidentally struck on planchette for pennies that were also being made for Ecquador? (Can't remember country). They look and measure exactly the same...same thickness too. But,they are heavier. And it is valuable. I have one too. It took forever to figure out what the deal was.
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 Posted 08/03/2018  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF Doogie309!
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 Posted 08/03/2018  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop had previously provided this info.

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 Posted 08/03/2018  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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There is a rare error for 1942 pennies struck on wrong planchette. Accidentally struck on planchette for pennies that were also being made for Ecquador? (Can't remember country). They look and measure exactly the same...same thickness too. But,they are heavier. And it is valuable. I have one too. It took forever to figure out what the deal was.

I responded then retracted cause my mind interpreting the data I use was going in two direction. Think you're onto something and thanks for pointing it out.

Philly mint was busy with lots of foreign coinage with similar compositions this year. Will update after going through the material again. Thanks, Doug.

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Accidentally struck on planchette for pennies that were also being made for Ecquador? (Can't remember country). They look and measure exactly the same...same thickness too. But, they are heavier.


If I read the reference I use most often correctly, it shows the following -

Philadelphia produced coinage for -
Ecuador
Year: 1942
Denomination: 10 Centavos
Composition: 80% copper, 20% zinc
Weight 3.00grams
Diameter 19.00mm
Note: the similarities to the U.S.Cent would not account for extra weight.

Philadelphia produced coinage for -
Ecuador
Year: 1942
Denomination: 20 Centavos
Composition: 80% copper, 20% zinc
Weight 4.00grams
Diameter 21.00mm
Note: the similarities to the U.S.Cent, but 21.00mm diameter will not fit the collar for a U.S. cent.

More food for thought,

Philadelphia produced coinage for -
Peru
Year: 1942
Denomination: 5 Centavos
Composition: 70% copper, 30%zinc
Weight 3.00grams
Diameter: 17.00mm

Note: again the weight and diameter. I'm thinking at this point the potential for blanking U.S. Cents from the wrong or foreign stock is a more likely possibility than struck on an actual foreign planchet. I'll let someone else do the math. Pending if the math does or does not compute, then as mentioned rolled thick stock is a likely suspect. Thanks, Doug.
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Halo,
Thanks for the information, very useful.
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 Posted 08/05/2018  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I've read on here they say not to get a coin graded unless it's worth over $500 otherwise your doing it just because you want to.
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From what I've read on here they say not to get a coin graded unless it's worth over $500 otherwise


It is recommended if the coin value is $200.00 or more.
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 Posted 08/07/2018  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NLL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome doogie. I recommend creating a new thread for your coins in question.
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 Posted 07/07/2020  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carmdogg708 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What ever happened here? Did u send it out? I a 1958 penny same issue
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 Posted 07/07/2020  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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More food for thought,

Philadelphia produced coinage for -
Peru
Year: 1942
Denomination: 5 Centavos
Composition: 70% copper, 30%zinc
Weight 3.00grams
Diameter: 17.00mm

Note: again the weight and diameter. I'm thinking at this point the potential for blanking U.S. Cents from the wrong or foreign stock is a more likely possibility than struck on an actual foreign planchet. I'll let someone else do the math. Pending if the math does or does not compute, then as mentioned rolled thick stock is a likely suspect. Thanks, Doug.

A cent planchet punched from the Peru 5 centavo stock would weigh 3.37 grams (close enough to the OP coin to be possible). Punched from the Ecuador 20 centavos stock it would weigh 3.63 grams (Too heavy). The Peru stock planchet could be a possibility, but 70% copper 30% zinc is cartridge brass which tends to be much more yellow than the regular cent stock and is more tarnish resistant. The alloy is different enough from that of the regular alloy that it should be identifiable by specific gravity or an XRF gun.
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A cent planchet punched from the Peru 5 centavo stock would weigh 3.37 grams....

I agree wholeheartedly about the XRF "gun" analysis.

But if it was a Peruvian planchet (17mm struck diameter on the chart) that expanded to 19mm, this could explain the added weight without the added thickness on the OP's coin.
I would imagine the Peru planchet would be smaller in diameter (16mm maybe?) to fit in the collar for the 5 Centaco coin.
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