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 Posted 09/22/2017  05:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom one is definitely a Theresia Thaler. Please note that almost all coins with date 1780 are restrikes, some even made today, most even made outside Austria. As your coin shows heavy wear, you may want to check if it's actually authentic. There are also numerous fakes on the market. Check how the edge looks, check the weight. Honestly, it looks fake, so be very careful.

The coin above that, reading Kwang-Hsi Ten Cash is a fantasy remake of a provincial 10 cash coin from the Kwangsi province. Fantasy, as the dragon on your coin doesn't make sense compared to the real coin. Also note that a real such coin can go for several thousands of USD on an auction if in XF or better condition.
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 Posted 09/22/2017  07:49 am  Show Profile   Check alganbagerap's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your first coin has an interesting history. Many people will tell you that it is an Imitation Ottoman. By which they mean a poor copy of an Ottoman coin used as ornamentation by dancers.
See: Belly Money.

This is almost certainly dancer's ornamentation but is copied from a French propaganda medallion.

In 1857 the French were victorious in Algeria, against the rebel groups who continued to fight despite the surrender of their leader Abd-el-Kader. They then created six medals with Arabic legends which were widely distributed throughout the population.
This has led to their classification as propaganda medals and yours is a poor copy of one of those medals
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Belgium
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 Posted 09/22/2017  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The thaler is a restrike.
The is told by the X after the date

First is indeed belly money

Third looks like roman. Perhaps you can find it here:
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/

The Chinese is a replica/fake/forgery of this coin:
http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...74684feba48d

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Israel
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 Posted 09/22/2017  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AJL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. Any ideas on the second coin?
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 Posted 09/22/2017  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
perhaps this helps:



the green circles can be the last two digits of a date, divied by F

Maybe you can find it here:
http://herbison.com/www.someoldcoin...r/index.html
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 Posted 09/22/2017  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AJL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very intersting ... thank you.
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 Posted 09/22/2017  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tootallious to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
on the Theresia Thaler coin check out this web site. http://theresia.name/en/svergleich.html
it was a big help for me on that coin.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
check this for the second coin!
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic62952.html
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 Posted 09/24/2017  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AJL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting but hard to see.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AJL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found it ROMAN - GRATIANUS 367-383 FOLLIS
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 Posted 09/28/2017  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Roman is a SOLI INVICTO COMITI type, sol holding globe and extending right hand. Not Gratian, as this type was a pagan issue and he was a Catholic.

Here's the page on the type:
http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/125/125i.htm

Legend is too far gone to be certain whether Constantine or Licinius. Probably Constantine because his coins are simply more plentiful.
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http://goccf.com/t/348979
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http://goccf.com/t/322087
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