More Coins I Have That I Need Help Identifying Please

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AJL Valued Member Israel 84 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 04:59 am * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

UltraRant Pillar of the Community Norway 1358 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 05:31 am The bottom one is definitely a Theresia Thaler. Please note that almost all coins with date 1780 are restrikes, some even made today, most even made outside Austria. As your coin shows heavy wear, you may want to check if it's actually authentic. There are also numerous fakes on the market. Check how the edge looks, check the weight. Honestly, it looks fake, so be very careful. The coin above that, reading Kwang-Hsi Ten Cash is a fantasy remake of a provincial 10 cash coin from the Kwangsi province. Fantasy, as the dragon on your coin doesn't make sense compared to the real coin. Also note that a real such coin can go for several thousands of USD on an auction if in XF or better condition. Report this Post to the Staff
alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 07:49 am Your first coin has an interesting history. Many people will tell you that it is an Imitation Ottoman. By which they mean a poor copy of an Ottoman coin used as ornamentation by dancers. See: Belly Money. This is almost certainly dancer's ornamentation but is copied from a French propaganda medallion. In 1857 the French were victorious in Algeria, against the rebel groups who continued to fight despite the surrender of their leader Abd-el-Kader. They then created six medals with Arabic legends which were widely distributed throughout the population. This has led to their classification as propaganda medals and yours is a poor copy of one of those medals Report this Post to the Staff
Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 08:11 am The thaler is a restrike. The is told by the X after the date First is indeed belly money Third looks like roman. Perhaps you can find it here: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ The Chinese is a replica/fake/forgery of this coin: http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...74684feba48d Report this Post to the Staff
AJL Valued Member Israel 84 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 10:12 am Thank you. Any ideas on the second coin? Report this Post to the Staff
Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 12:21 pm perhaps this helps: the green circles can be the last two digits of a date, divied by F Maybe you can find it here: http://herbison.com/www.someoldcoin...r/index.html Report this Post to the Staff
AJL Valued Member Israel 84 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 5:47 pm Very intersting ... thank you. Report this Post to the Staff
Tootallious Rest in Peace United States 1559 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 7:20 pm on the Theresia Thaler coin check out this web site. http://theresia.name/en/svergleich.html it was a big help for me on that coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 09/24/2017 09:52 am check this for the second coin! https://en.numista.com/forum/topic62952.html Report this Post to the Staff
AJL Valued Member Israel 84 Posts	Posted 09/24/2017 2:36 pm Interesting but hard to see. Report this Post to the Staff
AJL Valued Member Israel 84 Posts	Posted 09/24/2017 2:51 pm Found it ROMAN - GRATIANUS 367-383 FOLLIS Report this Post to the Staff
Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 09/28/2017 09:12 am The Roman is a SOLI INVICTO COMITI type, sol holding globe and extending right hand. Not Gratian, as this type was a pagan issue and he was a Catholic. Here's the page on the type: http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/125/125i.htm Legend is too far gone to be certain whether Constantine or Licinius. Probably Constantine because his coins are simply more plentiful. Report this Post to the Staff
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