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 Posted 01/11/2018  9:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ariette to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey all. I was wondering, what is the oldest coin that you know of containing a date indicating when it was made? I have seen some British coins with dates in the 1600s, though there very well may be older ones as I am not very familiar with non-US coins. The date doesn't have to be in the Gregorian calendar, as long as it can be easily converted.
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 Posted 01/11/2018  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Check Fuzzy317's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are many threads about old coins. Here was the original HFBCWG: http://goccf.com/t/86101

Here is the latest one: http://goccf.com/t/277302
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After a few member's comments, I have unlocked this thread. I know there are older, but the oldest dated coin I have is 1495 Cavallo of Naples

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 Posted 01/12/2018  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It all depends on how you define date. Based on the criteria in the topic ("as long as it can be easily converted") the oldest coin I know of is from 1180.

Under Chinese Emperor Xiao Zong (1163-1190) in reign period Chun Xi (1173-1190) some coins included the year of casting. The first of these types were in year 7 of the reign, which converts to 1180. I have one of the year 7 coins (Hartill 17.189). A nicer example of a coin from 1180 is on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/China-Sout...232615621030

If specifying the year isn't enough the earliest I know of is June 1689. The James II Gunmoney coins included the month. (I don't own any.)
https://oldcurrencyexchange.com/201...-variations/

If month isn't good enough then Turkey minted coins with the day on the coin starting in 2002.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces20303.html
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 Posted 01/12/2018  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. AD Dates started becoming common on coins in the 1400s, but the first AD-dated coin is from 1234.
2. The earliest dates in absolute terms come from Greek coinage. Some Seleucid Greek coins (modern day Middle East, Turkey to Afghanistan) bear a date (in Greek numerals) relating to the founding of their empire in 312 BC.

Some other old calendar systems commonly used on coins:
- Most Arab coins (at least the silver and gold ones) bear a date beginning with the standardized coinage reform in 76 AH, or 695 AD. These dates are written out longhand until the early modern age, however
- The Byzantine, Sassanian, and Roman empires, in addition to many smaller kingdoms, commonly used regnal years on coins. (Caveat: Romans only had their regnal years spelled out on certain provincials, although early imperial coins used TR P, or granting of Tribunician power, which had to be renewed every December 9.)
- A small kingdom commonly called the Western Satraps in India used a standard calendar system in Brahmi numerals relating to the founding of their kingdom in 78 AD. I believe this is the earliest calendar system to use numerals in a base-10 numbering system to denote a date.
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