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1972 Lincoln Cent off center mint strike error coin

 
 
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 Posted 01/12/2018  4:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add eggplant to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello CCF members! Pictured below is a U.S. Mint error coin 1972 Lincoln Cent struck approximately 10% off center at K-5 (5:00 o'clock orientation.) The thing that I find interesting about this example is that for its date and Philadelphia mint source, despite barely qualifying as off center (design details missing) vs broadstruck, the off center magnitude (10%) is a big number! 1972-D Lincolns 40-50-60% off center are not hard to find but 1972 Phillies >10% off are few and far between. Comments welcome.



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 Posted 01/12/2018  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never noticed lesser examples for any dates that really had more or less of any particular percentage of off center.

Where are you coming up with that supposition? It would be interesting to see such numbers.
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 Posted 01/12/2018  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the forum!


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1972-D Lincolns 40-50-60% off center are not hard to find

I don't find a lot of them....

That is a nice example you have!
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 Posted 01/12/2018  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, very nice example. Interesting picture. Just wondering, is that coin in any type of holder?
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 Posted 01/12/2018  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tootallious to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with moxking! If you could provide us with confirmation of said information it would be excellent knowledge gained

Edit: That is a very nice find by the way
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 Posted 01/12/2018  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eggplant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK greetings all! Will try to answer everyone.

Hi moxking. Thanks for your comment. I don't understand your first sentence but I'm happy to elaborate on my belief that 1972-P cents >10% off center are less common than the 1972-D cents 40-50-60% o/c. Above all it's the accumulation of data stored in the memory bank between my ears, but that's not about to convince you or anyone else! Here's what I suggest:

1) Google search the phrase "1972 Lincoln cent off center". Click the images tab. I count (2) Phillies >10%. One is ~15% and other ~30% o/c. (As an aside, I also see my 10% example snapped <3 hours ago . Google doesn't drag their feet!)

2) Next Google search "1972-D Lincoln cent off center" images. I count (2) Denvers in the 40-60% range.

3) Next try Heritage. No active items. Their sold archives show (1) 1972 Philly ~30% o/c and (3) 1972-D ~60%.

4) Finally eBay. Active items show (2) 1972-D ~60% o/c, no Philly beyond broadstruck. Completed items show (1) Philly ~30% and (2) 1972D ~40-60%.

I could go on but in summary I found (4) Phillies ~15-30% o/c (none greater) and (9) 1972-D ~40-60%. This snapshot is consistent with my gut feeling and I believe it reflects the Mint escape populations. Root cause is another story. In my experience these diverging profiles are by no means limited to 1972-P vs 1972-D Lincolns.

Regarding the photo, I placed the coin on the bottom of an inverted drinking glass and shot the photos in direct sunlight with a Samsung WB210 handheld point & shoot in macro mode, no coin holder.
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 Posted 01/12/2018  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Regarding the photo, I placed the coin on the bottom of an inverted drinking glass and shot the photos in direct sunlight with a Samsung WB210 handheld point & shoot in macro mode, no coin holder.


I knew that picture looked different. Thanks.
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 Posted 01/13/2018  12:09 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find or pickup! It is a great Off-Center LMC! Make sure to put it in a 2x2 coin flip.
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 Posted 01/13/2018  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't it have really been somethin' if it was a DDO variety too? Now that would really be a guddin'!

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 Posted 01/13/2018  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find, congrats!



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 Posted 01/13/2018  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chopped Triumphs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice find
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 Posted 01/13/2018  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eggplant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the warm welcomes and tips. Getting back to an earlier comment looking for numbers - the absence of error population numbers makes this branch of collecting irresistible to me and probably others here because it opens the door wide open to sleuthing and cherry picking. Yes 'normal' coins offer opportunities as well but the added twist of no subset population numbers published by the U.S. Mint makes the error hunt that much sweeter.

If anyone has seen or heard of a 1972 Philadelphia Lincoln cent die struck >30% off center please spill the beans!
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