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1854 Napoleon Coin

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 Posted 05/21/2008  1:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add arthrene to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need help with this coin. Obverse says "Napoleon III Empereur 1854". I can't make out the reverse. If someone can help me figure out the denomination and confirm/deny if the coin is from France, it would be much appreciated.

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05/22/2008 10:08 pm
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 Posted 05/21/2008  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
your coin is almost certainly a Secon Empire specimen.
Does it have a diameter or weight ?
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 Posted 05/21/2008  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its a dix centiemes from the second french empire
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Peter,
I have no way to weigh the coin but coin is about 15cm across.
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G'day,
I'm not very familiar with the Second Empire, but I have a copy of Gadoury's excellent catalogue.
The 1, 2, 5, & 10 centimes are all bronze, and visually, they are very similar. The denomination is in text at the lower edge of the reverse.
When you say the diameter is "15cm" (~6 inches), I suspect that you meant to say "15mm".
Which is the diameter of the "un centime" from 1853 to 1870.
I can't make out the date in your pic, but you say it's 1854. In that year, 1c was minted with the following mintmarks: A, B, BB, D, K, & MA. The mintmark is immediately below the eagle's feet. From the prices in Gadoury, the mintmarks seem almost equally common, except that D has a bit of a premium, but B has a big premium. Curiously, the mintages aren't all that different. Yours looks like a D (Lyon):
1,545,967 minted;
grade "B" ~ 10 euros. Your pic looks like a Bminus to me, because not all of the legend is readable.
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Peter,
Thanks for all of the help! I did mean mm instead of cm.

Sorry the scans aren't the best. I can't make out anything on the reverse except for the "D" mintmark. It doesn't show up well in the scans but it is definitely an 1854.

Wow! ~ 10 euros = almost $16 USD I picked it up in a bag of world coins. It was about .08c a coin. Excellent turn around! Thanks again!
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