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Thinking About Buying From This Ebay Seller, Your Thoughts 1812 Half Dollar

 
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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BassPro to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Attractive at first glance, but enlarging the obverse pic shows strong cleaning scratches. I would not buy this coin.



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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BassPro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I figured that is what someone who really knows would say. Just because it's cleaned--does that make it no good? Really beautiful coin but I guess that's alot of money also
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 Posted 01/20/2018  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think they are allowed to show the PCGS view if the coin has been cracked out. Or was it ever in a PCGS slab? Did the seller superimpose the PCGS title over the coin to make it look official? If the seller doesn't have an answer, keep looking.

I'm with the frog on this one. Those hairlines are pretty obvious. As is I would not bid on it.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely cleaned.

I'm also not a fan of the the first photo using the PCGS logo. While it doesn't say it is a certified coin, why else would you have the PCGS logo beside the coin except to make people think it is certified by them. Only other reason would be if he was a PCGS Authorized Dealer, but it isn't clear if they are.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd pass just on the basis of a deliberately deceptive listing.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add duncanbishop24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep I agree. They might be using the PCGS one as a 'stock photo' and they're too completely different coins too... Seems too weird
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 Posted 01/20/2018  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Deceptive listing pass. If the coin was in a PCGS holder, the seller knows the actual PCGS grade, but list the coin as AU/UNC.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The use of the PCGS logo confused me as well.

I would keep shopping as the bids keep coming on this one.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4504 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
weird listing. it gives the word or symbol of " PCGS" on the listing photo, but does not show it in a holder, nor show the grade. For info, I might message the seller and ask the seller where they derived the AU or XF from, and by the way where is the picture of it in the PCGS holder. If the seller cannot answer this, you might ask what is the grade as I have not seen any of these grade catagories before without a grade on the label. It still might be worth buying if you can get this cleared up but it seems the seller is being way too evasive and/or incomplete on his claims regarding the coin. just my opinion. if the seller replies, please put it here as many of us can spot a b.s. listing from a mile away.

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 Posted 01/20/2018  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Harshly cleaned Retone. Pass.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned and re-toned. Pass.

The first image has the PCGS logo but no cert number. The coin is also out of a holder and there's no reason for PCGS logo to be there.
Even if it was in good condition I would pass because the listing is deceptive.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon Brand to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, seller is from white plains new York. That means I'm about 20 minutes from this coin. It does look kinda pretty but I wouldn't get it with the scratches and cleaning. It's not ugly though. Also regarding that "trueview" notice the black around the coin? I've never seen that on a real trueview.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4504 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, it sold for $517. since it was a private auction, we have no idea on the buyer's experience... or anything else possibly shady about it the bidding.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BassPro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't buy cause of everybody being negative about the coin but I thought it was the best looking coin that old I ever seen.
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 Posted 01/20/2018  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the same seller that was discussed on another thread a few days ago about his unusual listings of details bust halves.

http://goccf.com/t/305722
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