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1921 Morgan Vam 1? "so called zerbe" dies?  
 

 
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 Posted 02/08/2018  3:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rynegold to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have this morgan...

[URL="https://flic.kr/p/236CJch][/url][URL="https://flic.kr/p/236CJch]DSC01439[/url] by [URL="https://www.flickr.com/photos/19089828@N00/]rynegold[/url], on Flickr

[URL="https://flic.kr/p/G3A7bW][/url][URL="https://flic.kr/p/G3A7bW]DSC01440[/url] by [URL="https://www.flickr.com/photos/19089828@N00/]rynegold[/url], on Flickr

[URL="https://flic.kr/p/24buNWx][/url][URL="https://flic.kr/p/24buNWx]DSC01442[/url] by [URL="https://www.flickr.com/photos/19089828@N00/]rynegold[/url], on Flickr

So who is SEGS? I've never heard of'em. And what sort of faith can you put in their grading? I CAN see this is a super sharp strike, w/a mirror like field both ob and re. Now of course it's an AU coin but, I can see a lot of value here "if" it's a Zerbe strike.

Opinions please...

Regards, mitch

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 Posted 02/08/2018  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SEGS is a third rate grading service. Their grading is very sporadic and cannot be depended upon.

Can't see the Morgan well enough to determine.
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 Posted 02/08/2018  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rynegold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/19089...690265486142

zoom in.

The hair over the ear, and the tail feathers are what I find interesting on this strike...
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 Posted 02/08/2018  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mox is right. SEGS is a third-rate grading service that grades everything either too high or too low. They cannot be trusted for an accurate grade.

As for the Morgan, I doubt it's a Zerbe special strike, but others may have more knowledge on die markers and the like.
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 Posted 02/10/2018  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SEGS is notorious for the term "So-called Zerbe dies" being used to describe pretty much every D1 Reverse. First, that's a hub variant, covering approximately half of the 40 million minted. Second, what constitutes the "Zerbe Die" is kid of up in the air these days, as there are now two dies (VAM-1AG and VAM-47) having been identified as Zerbe coins.
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