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Lundy -- 1929, 1 puffin:



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 Posted 05/14/2018  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...Um, I think the 1929 puffins aren't fantasy issues, but just normal micronational coins?

It's the puffins from the 2010s (forgot the exact dates) that are truly fantasy issues.
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When I saw it this morning I questioned it too. Unless I'm looking at the wrong coin, it comes up as a token.
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I think the Puffins are "unofficial" -- not issued by the UK government?

They appear in the Krause "Unusual World Coins" book, and not the regular volumes. This coin has the catalog number: X#Tn2.

I should add that an alternative coin catalog site (whose name cannot be mentioned here, apparently) classifies these coins as fantasies, rather then coins from micronations.
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Information on Martin Coles Harman the self-proclaimed "King of Lundy" can be found here:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Coles_Harman
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I've always been scared to drop any money on the Lundy issues because IIRC, in addition to the original 1929 issue, there have been "re-strikes" by various private firms ever since - totally unprotected by law because the Kingdom of Lundy was never a real thing.

I wonder if this would count? I am pretty sure it was minted under the authority of the Crown, but Turks and Caicos uses the US dollar; the coins are not legal tender on the island

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The Turks & Caicos island coins are official coins; they were legal tender - the Turks & Caicos crown was set at par with the dollar, and I have seen some very heavily circulated examples of the quarter-crown.

To qualify as an "unofficial" coinage, it has to be listed in the "Unusual world coins" book, and therefore have an "X" number in the NGC world coin database. The entry for the Lundy 1 puffin shows it to be unofficial (the reference number is X# Tn2). These coins were once listed in the mainstream Krause catalogues, but moved to UWC because they logically belong there (having officially and legally been declared invalid coinage in a British court of law). The entry for the Turks & Caicos crown lists it as "KM# 1" - an official coin, the first for the islands.

Krause isn't infallible - for example, they still list some Nauru coinage as "official", even though Nauru has never issued any official coins - but they get it right most of the time and it can be assumed to be correct until proven otherwise.

Now, for my own contributions to the topic. I'm away from my collection and my main computer right now, but here's a couple that
I downloaded earlier.


Hutt River Province "5 dollars" 1991. This coin is doubly-unofficial: it was made in the name of an unrecognized country (thus all HRP coins are in the UWC catalogue) and it was made without the authorization of the "legitimate" government of Hutt River Province. This is one of a gazillion pseudo-coins featuring "Desert Storm" military units, issued by a coin dealership in California and mass-marketed to Americans.


Behold, a coin from Middle Earth - the entirely fictitious world of JRR Tolkein and "Lord of the Rings". This purports to be a coin of the dwarf-kingdom of Moria. It reads, in Tolkein's dwarf-runes, "Balin, Lord of Moria". I also have a coin from the dwarf-kingdom of Erebor.
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Cool find. Can I ask how you came across it?
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Given that having a Krause X# is sufficient to make a coin unofficial:


Order of Malta -- 9 tari, 1967 (Krause X#18):



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Order of Malta coin is really cool looking.
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Very Nice Puffin! I have always enjoyed the Puffin design. I am yet to pick one up.
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Cool find. Can I ask how you came across it?
https://www.shirepost.com/collectio...s/lotr-set-1

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