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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! We Need - 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864) -

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1491 (AH 896) -- Delhi Sultinate, 1 tanka:


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Nice work @pep! 1491 is the first hole in my OFEY collection.
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I only have 5 more, so I am pretty sparse across the 1480s and 1470s (if we get there), then done.
@pepactonius, thx for the tip on the 1480 Brabant, but as you say, the date area is pretty weak. I need to spend more time looking on MA shops... I noticed quite a few early dated Austria coins over there, some not very pricey. Must be dates some of you already have?
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@tdz, here is a protip: if you use the keyword LEVINSON on ma-shops, you will capture 90+% of the auctions with early dated coins.
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Here is a Körtling from the German City of Göttingen dated AD 1490:




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Here is an undated Hungarian Denar that was struck in AD 1489 (Huszar 722A; Frynas H.34.40):



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if you use the keyword LEVINSON on ma-shops, you will capture 90+% of the auctions with early dated coins

Thanks! Though it's a dangerous suggestion for someone who has already spent too much on coins this year

For today I have a Brabant 1489 gros /groot, Antwerp mint (letter A at center of cross reverse), interesting for being issued jointly in the name of Philip the Fair (obverse legend) and his father, Maximilian (reverse legend), as Philip was only 11 years old and Maximilian was acting as regent.



As I have read deWitte's account of pre-1500 coins of Brabant, I am struck by the very high mintages. There were over 2.2 million of this type struck between early 1490 and early 1492. I believe they bore a date of either 1489 or 1490, or were undated. He mentions 1489 and undated, but 1490 is also known.
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Nice one @tdz!

I also can post this Schilling from the German Duchy of Pomerania (Garz mint) dated AD 1489:




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Here is a Half Stuiver from the Netherlands City State of Nijmegen dated AD 1488. After today, I hit another stop.




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Fortunately, I've got a 1487 from the Delhi Sultinate for tomorrow.
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I'll post something tomorrow for adjudication by the How Far Back judges.

It won't matter since @pepactonius will move us back.

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I have a coin for tomorrow too - it almost definitely isn't eligible for advancement, but, again, this shouldn't matter.
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County of Flanders
Philip the Fair 1482-1506
double mite
no date : 1488-89
mint: Mechelen (Malines)
+ PHS.DEI.GRATIA.DUX.CO.FL
PHILIPPUS DEI GRATIA DUX COMES FLANDRIĆ
Philip, by the grace of God, duke of the county of Flanders
IN.DOMINO.CONFIDI
trust in god

Literature: Van Gelder / Hoc 153a


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1487 (892 AH) -- Delhi Sultanate, 1 tanka:

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Quote:
I'll post something tomorrow for adjudication


It turns out I made a mistake.
The coin posted below is an undated Brabant griffon (valued at 5 gros/groots despite being quite debased), 1487-88, de Witte 561. This type was struck at the Antwerp mint between July 5, 1487 and June 3 1488 (less than a year, of which the majority was in 1487), and at Malines between July 5, 1487 and November 19, 1488.

I think the Antwerp coin would have qualified for moving the thread, but mine is from Malines . Still, an interesting coin that we don' see often out here (same can be said for @petrus coin posted yesterday). The double griffon is dated, but quite rare





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