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1835 $5 gold coin—your opinion on grade and value-thnx

 
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 Posted 07/06/2018  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imag8r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How do you tell this was cleaned?
—on another coin I could see horizontal lines from abrasion but this coin just looks like a bunch of marks —what is diff between these marks and bagmarks—thanks
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 Posted 07/06/2018  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin has a different, more abrasive cleaning. Brilliant uncirculated (BU) coins have mint luster which looks like the hazy concentric surface of an LP music record (if you remember what those look like). This coin looks like the original surface of the coin was stripped of its luster. Over time you will get a feel for what that looks like. A BU coin straight from the mint would look like the one below:

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07/06/2018 10:40 pm
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 Posted 07/06/2018  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imag8r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How do you tell between a cleaned coin and one that is AU and lost its luster from being handled in circulation—i can understand XF or less cause the wear on the coin/high spots and loss of luster—thanks
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 Posted 07/06/2018  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a great question and it is sometimes tough to tell. But the difference is that wear is slight on an Au coin, and most importantly it does not mar the surface of the coin in a way not consistent with normal wear from handling a coin. Correct identification requires some experience.

I always ask myself: Is the wear on the surface of the coin consistent with what I would expect from slight, normal handling? If yes, AU, if not, cleaned or damaged.
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 Posted 07/06/2018  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imag8r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NStudent
Sorry but one more question for the night—you seem to know about Rampo some—my dad also bought coins from Sarr in florida and coast to coast in MD—i cant find anything on Sarr but I see coast to coast is still operating—do you know those 2 companies and their reputation
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 Posted 07/07/2018  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know Sarr, but I know CCC well. They are a large outfit with a really deep inventory of really desirable coins. They have a great reputation, imho. Their good stuff is all slabbed. Their sweet spot is in the $1k to $10k range, but there are no bargains there. You'll pay close to full retail there so many knowledgeable collectors would rather try to get into a discount situation at auction.
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 Posted 07/07/2018  08:08 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a chance your coin would grade problem-free. The second set of images suggest a light cleaning that might get a pass with a TPG. It's worth a shot IMO.
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