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Could It Be A 1958 D (LWC) Double Die I Know There Hasn't Been One Or An Error

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 Posted 07/12/2018  05:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Mrortiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! ***

Double die on date? Or error on reverse in the e pluribus
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 Posted 07/12/2018  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although it's a nice uncirculated wheatie, I don't see any signs of it being a doubled die.
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 Posted 07/12/2018  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrortiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I.ll try take bether photos
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 Posted 07/12/2018  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1) What KIND of doubling do you think you're seeing? Fat letters, doubled image?

#2) Where on the coin are you seeing this event, obverse, reverse, motto, Date, MM?

As of now, I see nothing indicative of a hub doubling class 6 or 1-4. The details are VLDS, meaning die deterioration, metal flow and movement outwards plus the stretching/enlargement of the devices.

The following is an excerpt from my booklet "Coin IDing for Dummies" Vol 1:

The Classes of Hub Doubling defined.

Class 1: Rotated Hub Doubling: Doubling where a second hubbing has been moved CW or CCW. The 1955P and 1972P are classic examples.
Class 2: Distorted Hub Doubling: This affects the outer design elements, separation lines normally above but can be under letters. Hub design variation.
Class 3: Design Hub Doubling: Most commonly known as Overdates(OVD), as in the Large Date over Small Date 1970S.
Class 4: Offset Hub Doubling: Where one hubbing offsets another in any direction, this is the "doubled ear" variety of 1984P.
Class 5 Pivoted Hub Doubling: Design elements "pivot" around a specific point on the die. Such as 1995P, date is pivot & untouched, Motto/LIBERTY are doubled.
Class 6 Distended Hub Doubling: Here a Stretching of design elements, only Class not showing a definite separation line. This is caused by an improperly annealed (treated) die itself causing stamped impression to "stretch"
Class 7 Modified Hub Doubling: This comes from trying to correct an error by failing to grind all off before hubbing again. Best seen on 1963D-1DO-001, very few in LMC's.
Class 8: Tilted Hub Doubling: The design is tilted, showing as extra "bars" next to devices such as above L in LIBERTY or next to letters IN.
Class 9: Shifted Hub Doubling: Came to describe errors in "single squeeze" minting such as "wavy steps". Thought to have come from the snapping "pop" that comes from the pressure applied which causes a slight shift. Remember, this has been debunked as not a true Doubled Die by most. (see
By thinking of the motion within each Class's title, may help you visualize what each Doubling may look like. Some of the best on-line reference sites:

All these have extensive listings and libraries of information for most any error coin question you may have. The following pictures are examples of each of these 8 recognized classes of Doubled Dies.

Just noticed the location mentioned... date:9 took a hit, DDD on size, EPU smashed or is a grease-filled strike. No Premium for these machining problems, not even "errors".
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 Posted 07/12/2018  11:30 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a Doubled Die. There's no signs of doubling.
More information about Die Deterioration?
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information.
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM.
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information.
Machine Doubling tutorial.
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions.
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial.
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