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 Posted 07/12/2018  12:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


1455 B-L/star under King Ladislaus V. This mint mark is not in the catalogues,but one with a + over the L is;Huszar 664var,Unger 523var,Pohl 187-2var.


1554 N-C under King Ferdinand 1;a variety with point under the Madonna and stars and points in the legend instead of rosettes;Huszar 953,Unger 745l.



1384/85 G-M under Queen Maria variation with REGINE UNGARIE in the legend;Huszar 569var,Unger 443dvar,Pohl 114-4var.

Four 1131-41 under King Bela II with different sigla. All are Huszar 102,Unger 53.

1. 2 points above and below right horizontal of cross at 3:00.



2. 3 points just above right horizontal at 2:30.


3. Wedge to the right of cross vertical at 12:30.


4.2 Lines on both sides of cross vertical at 12:00.
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 Posted 07/12/2018  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May I ask where you purchased the from and about how much? I've been branching out to the ancients lately and find myself drawn more to Medieval European 9th to 17th century coins is why I ask. My budget is limited, have a few so far, and like what I've seen. Especially the history behind them!
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 Posted 07/12/2018  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent group, The coins of Hungary have been an interest of mine for some time and I have a few in my collection none of the cross type though.
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 Posted 07/12/2018  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great additions to an amazing collection @ED!
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Continuing on the 1131-41 King Bela II sigla varieties,this one has 2 points at about 4:00.


This one has 2 points on either side of cross vertical at 6:00.



This one has 3 points between 3:00 and 6:00.




This one has 2 rows of 3 points between 2:00 and 3:00.




This one has 2 sets of 3 points in triangle at 1:00 and 2:30.




This one has a small wedge at 4:00.




This one has a small wedge on either side of cross vertical at 6:00.




This one has 3 rows of 3 lines between 12:00 and 3:00.




This is a 1383-85 Hungarian Denar under Queen Maria with no mint mark;Huszar 566,Unger 442a,Pohl 112-1. It has a pale green patina.



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07/28/2018 2:15 pm
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The first four are sigla variations of 1131-41 Hungarian Denars under King Bela II;Huszar 102;Unger 53.

1. 2 points at 12:30 and 2:30.



2. 3 points in triangle at 12:30.




3. 2 rows of 3 points at 2:00.





4. 2 small wedges at 2:30.




This one is a copper 1447-52 B-I Hungarian Denar under John Hunyadi. It is a variation with TEMPORE.GUBERNATORIS instead of TEMPORE.IO.GUBERNATOR:Huszar 623var,Unger 486avar,Pohl 177-1var.



1440/41 L-P. under King Ladislaus V. It is a variant with a point after the P in the mint mark not in the catalogues;Huszar 643var,Unger 494lvar,Pohl 150-10var.



1390-1427 S under Sigismund of Luxemburg. It is a variant with the mint mark on the left side of the cross;Huszar 576,Unger 449.mu,Pohl 117-8.

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 Posted 08/20/2018  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I especially like those coins from the reign of Maria posted earlier. I'd love to see some Polish coins from the 14th century in that kind of condition that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.

Also I was wondering if that type of Bela denar has been cataloged for the varieties. If not maybe that's another numismatic reference book waiting to be written.

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Four more varieties of 1131-41 Hungarian Denar under King Bela II;Huszar 102,Unger 53.

1. 1 point at 9:30 and 11:30.




2. 6 points spaced between 3:00 and 9:00.





3. 1 line at 2:00.





4. 2 perpendicular lines at 2:00.




1383(Huszar and Unger)/1383-85(Pohl) Hungarian Denar with a lily-lily mint mark under Queen Maria;Huszar 566,Unger 442f,Pohl 112-2.



1077-95 Hungarian Denar under King Ladislaus I:huszar 27,Unger 22. This has a sigla variety of 2 wedges at 8:00 between the A and you in LADISLAUS. The A and you are shaped like upside down V and V.

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 Posted 10/07/2018  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1546 K-B under King Ferdinand I. It is a variant with a 5 pointed star after the date and 3 under the Madonna;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.



Most likely a contemporary counterfeit with a date of 555 (or reverse 222) and an L-K mint mark which would have been during King Louis II's reign so the date can not be correct.





1520 K-G under King Louis II with VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 841,Unger 673m,Pohl 255-1.




1470 n-hammers under Matthias Corvinus with points in the legend (I already have the one with circles in the legend);Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.




1445/46 B-star/n,Interregnum II with a legend variation of MMONETA VNGARIE REGNI instead of MONETS UNGARIE REgni;Huszar 613,Unger 480c,Pohl 173-3.









1373-82 under King Louis I with no points around double cross;Huszar 547,Unger 432a,Pohl 89-1.


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10/07/2018 11:41 am
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 Posted 10/07/2018  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice new set there, Eddie. Quite an impressive collection.
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 Posted 10/07/2018  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice new set there, Eddie


I agree--these are great!

Added: interestingly, my Huszar 547 does have the dots around the cross.
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