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Buckwill311 Valued Member United States 363 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 10:07 pm I had this coin in the grading forum, but I wanted everyone's opinion on whether or not this coin is proof. All the reverse diagnostics are there but I can't seem to pinpoint one on the obverse. Is I think I see die scratches by "WE" but they are so faint it's hard to tell. Is it possible that a reverse die meant for proofs was also used on business strikes? Just throwing some ideas out there. I think it's been cleaned because the side is the same color as the rest of the coin. The rims look square but that can happen on business strikes too right? I'm having trouble determining if the surfaces look like a matte proof. What do you guys think? http://www.lincolncentcollection.co...ristics.html Here are some more photos (they were from the auction) College bound Lehigh University '2022 Edited by Buckwill311 07/12/2018 11:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 15727 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 10:34 pm Looks like a Business Strike to me, but I could be wrong. More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950 Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961 1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900 1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624 Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421 Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638 Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470 Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Pillar of the Community United States 7716 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 10:39 pm Looks like a impaired proof to me, but I could be wrong. LOL Actually weren't the early Lincoln proofs a matte finish? If so, this may not be a proof but the squared rims look very much like that of a proof. Numismatist: One who studies or collects money or substitutes thereof. Exonumist: One who studies coin-like objects such as token coins and medals used in place of legal currency or for commemoration. Report this Post to the Staff
Buckwill311 Valued Member United States 363 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 10:42 pm My pictures also look a little deceiving, the "luster" that you see is from cleaning, it's not lustrous in hand College bound Lehigh University '2022 Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Bedrock of the Community 10197 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 10:55 pm Reverse rim is BS, note rounding. The obverse was an over pressure strike, depth of details and rim finning show just a solid strike EDS. Edited by Crazyb0 07/12/2018 10:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
spruett001 Pillar of the Community United States 9067 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 11:02 pm My gut says business strike. I have seen several early Lincolns with outstanding rims, especially on the obverse. Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum. -Lucretius "Just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you." -Kurdt Kobain My Want List: http://goccf.com/t/282022 Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 35001 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 11:11 pm It is a normal coin that someone worked on the rims to make them square. The devices are weak like the business strikes. Not a Matte proof cent. Look at the clear devices on this one. The squareness of the rim is on the inside of the rim, not the outside edge. Take another look at this example. Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube: 1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/ Edited by coop 07/12/2018 11:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Pillar of the Community United States 7716 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 11:20 pm Errers and Varietys, I hope you know I said that in jest following your post. Thus the LOL After seeing coops and learning from spruuuuuu that early Lincoln business strikes are sometimes seen with "outstanding rims". I do think it is not a proof. The lettering on coops pic are sharp and defined which differs on Buckwills coin. Numismatist: One who studies or collects money or substitutes thereof. Exonumist: One who studies coin-like objects such as token coins and medals used in place of legal currency or for commemoration. Report this Post to the Staff
Buckwill311 Valued Member United States 363 Posts	Posted 07/12/2018 11:32 pm Thanks coop that was very helpful! I just want to understand, because all the reverse diagnostics match that of a proof. Does that mean it could have been struck using a reverse die meant for proofs? Or are the diagnostics found on the master die resulting in it being transferred to all other dies? I just am curious why the reverse matches that of a proof College bound Lehigh University '2022 Report this Post to the Staff
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