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1969 S Penny obverse possibly two dd with two machine die?

 
 
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 Posted 08/08/2018  11:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jessiescorpio to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this 1969 s penny and it seems to have a possible dd on the S mint mark and a dd on the IB in liberty and machine die on E not sure. I didnt see anything else but can include more pics. Your input appreciated. Thanks







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 Posted 08/08/2018  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a Doubled Die Obverse. It's Machine Doubling, since the devices are reduced in size, and it's shelflike (flat) in appearance. Machine Doubling reduces the size of the devices, while genuine Doubled Dies will increase the size of the devices. http://www.error-ref.com/machine-doubling/
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 08/08/2018  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add killians76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gonna go with Md on this. It all seems like it has a "shelf like appearance" to it. No added value. Very common on alot of my 69's also.
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 Posted 08/08/2018  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very common to find Machine Doubling on the 1968-1972 cents. On the 1969-S DDO-001, most have Machine Doubling on them as well.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jessiescorpio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i can see what your saying about the MD in the I but the B and the S not sure I a few more pics of S with the penny on a angle not sure if it makes a difference.



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 Posted 08/09/2018  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jessiescorpio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks or the input
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Thank you for posting that picture! You see how the doubling is shelflike (flat) in appearance? That's because during the strike, the die bounced off a little bit. That's a definite sign of Machine Doubling.
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 08/09/2018  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jessiescorpio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see what your saying with the S. What about the B? I can see how this would apply to the side of it but what about the part going through the top and bottom hole of the letter?

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 Posted 08/09/2018  01:37 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's the same thing as well with that picture. It's also Machine Doubling.
Errers and Varietys.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 08/09/2018  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jessiescorpio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
okie dokie I appreciate the lesson and time you took. Ill make sure to use it as a reference but I will definitely post pics on anymore finds to make sure I'm on track.
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That's a great idea! Save it for future reference use. Keep up the search, and post any coins that you have questions about. We will gladly answer your questions. :-)
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 08/09/2018  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jessiescorpio,
FYI: I think you mean a RPM on the mint mark not a DD-doubled die yes? Your coin is MD and does not have a RPM.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is MD, not a doubled die or RPM.
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