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Advice on Compiling a Tudor & Stuart Collection

 
 
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 Posted 09/11/2018  8:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The woman I share my life with lived for some time in the U.K. and is an avid student of Tudor and Stewart history.

Somehow she became infected with that disease called numismatic fever (honestly, if I had known it was contagious I would have taken precautions ), and is slowly putting together a "One From Every Reign" set.

I know relatively little about U.K. coins from this period, though that hasn't stopped me from sitting with her over online auction catalogs and suggesting things for her/us to bid on.

My questions:
- What is the proper set of reigns to be considered?
- What advice can any collectors give on a type coins from each reign, with the objective to get nice portraits, keeping the cost under, say $300 to $400 per coin?

She's aware that the largest coin from the beginning of this period will be a groat, and that Crowns and half crowns become affordable mid- 17th c. She has a few already (an Henry VIII groat, a William & Mary half crown).

Thanks in advance for any guidance!
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 Posted 09/11/2018  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aiglet7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When it comes to coins of the UK this has been my "go to" site. Take a look and see if you believe it might be helpful.

http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/coins.html
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 Posted 09/12/2018  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get a spink catalogue (if you haven't already got one)
DNW and Spink have got auctions coming up.
Take your time and go for quality.
You can also get great info from Predecimal.com (many members are amongst the UK'S premier dealers)
I'm sure they can help...the majority don't use eBay (IMO a bonus)
Beware of forgeries.There are threads of these rotters with illustrations of the bad boys.
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 Posted 09/12/2018  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the suggestions thus far.

The coins she has already came mostly from Heritage and CNG (which has an unusually large selection of English coins in their upcoming auction). I've used Spink occasionally for my collecting areas, and we will start looking at DNW.

Is it correct that the list of reigns would be considered to be:
Henry VII (1485-1509)
Henry VIII (1509-1547)
Edward VI (1547-1553)
Mary (1553-1554)
Mary & Phillip (1554-1558)
Elizabeth (1558-1603)

James I/VI (1603-25)
Charles I (1625-45)
Commonwealth
Charles II (1649-1685)
James II/VII (1685-1688)
William & Mary (1689-1694)
William III (1694-1702)
Anne (1702-1714)
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 Posted 09/12/2018  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks OK to me.
Your main expense will be on Mary and Phillip and Mary.Devilish to get good examples.
It is also difficult to get a decent portrait of Liz...maybe a Godsend (she was a bit of a moose)
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 Posted 09/12/2018  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback on the list, peter1234. In particular, we were wondering if reigns of Mary vs. Phillip & Mary tend to be counted separately.

There are some Mary groats currently up in auctions. I've been wondering if the scratches I often see on the obverses are normal wear, or the acting out of contemporary Protestants. And yes, I've noticed that the Phillip & Mary shillings tend to have worn portraits even when the legends, etc. are otherwise relatively sharp. Bummer.

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Australia
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 Posted 09/12/2018  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jrg_from_oz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Having put together such a collection of sixpences (from Edward VI to George III) more than 35 years ago, I would offer two comments. Firstly, it is challenging but immensely satisfying. Secondly, I may be splitting hairs, but I would consider the 1658 Cromwell bust issues to be worthy of inclusion, alongside the Commonwealth shield obverse. (I had to settle for an electrotype of the Cromwell 6d <g>)

John
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 Posted 09/16/2018  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
aiglet7 thanks for that great link, I now have that one book marked.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, all, for the feedback.

I hope she likes this Henry VII groat for her birthday next month. She already has a facing bust issue of Henry VII, but recently saw the later portraits and has been hankering for an upgrade.
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Australia
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 Posted 09/26/2018  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coincrafts book 1998 publication of coins of English and U.K. coins provides some useful collecting advice. Well worth searching the Net for a second hand copy, as I believe long since out of print.

Seabys or Spinks publications can provide more up to date pricing information, as can Tony Claytons Website.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazon UK have a 2nd hand copy 5.53 delivered.The 2000 edition is the most recent.Bargain as its a BIG book.
BTW lovely Henry Groat
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 Posted 09/27/2018  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GB pounds 5.53 is a "steal" for such a mine of information !
My original print is starting to fall apart from heavy use as a reference. I am very tempted to update.
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 Posted 09/27/2018  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sel I believe the deal is to UK addresses.
The OP is in the States.
But any UK based collector who needs a copy......
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 Posted 09/30/2018  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That Henry VII groat is a beauty!
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 Posted 10/02/2018  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
She received it yesterday for her birthday and was quite pleased.

I probably overpaid, but when love is involved ....
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10/02/2018 8:29 pm
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 Posted 10/03/2018  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buying quality in the long run is the way to go.
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