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Charles I Oxford Crown ... A Fake?

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This looks like a Charles I Oxford crown from 1644. However, I believe only about 100 were made, which leads me to suspect this one is a fake. It has what looks like a 'PY' countermark near the date at about 7 o'clock. Any advice for distinguishing real hammered coins from fakes, apart from sheer improbability? Many thanks.

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The PY is part of a COPY stamp. This is a marked copy of a coin.
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It's marked COPY.
If you look closely to left of the P, you can faintly see the letter O.
Looks like whoever stamped it had their punch on an angle.
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Yep, it's marked "COPY", to comply with the Hobby Protection Act in America, which required replicas have COPY stamped onto them before they can be bought or sold, so I suspect yours was made for / sold in America. British-sold replicas usually just have a small symbol or monogram identifying the manufacturing company - such as the notorious WRL countermarks of Westair Reproductions Ltd.
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Excellent, thank you. If only 'copy' was stamped on every replica! The coin is currently for sale on a New Zealand auction site. At least the seller makes no claims about its authenticity (he just says he doesn't know if it's real).
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The Chinese don't seem to follow those guide lines.
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