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XF - UNC designation at auction

 
 
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 Posted 09/13/2018  1:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add derekjacoby to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all,


I've been poking around international auctions recently. I have a list of condition terms for each country and I've been able to wade through alright, buying a few small things.

I have come across the designation that translates XF-UNC as a single coin's condition. Seen it in German, Spanish, and Italian so far, and it's quite common.

Does this mean that it could be anywhere from XF to UNC and, rather than make their own decision, they are letting the bidders know that it falls in this range. Different opinions are possible?


Thanks,
Derek
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 Posted 09/13/2018  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you referencing foreign on foreign grading? As you've discovered, some countries can hardly grade their own correctly, much less another. So your question of left up to buyer is appropriate. Although, I do take issue with any coin that category, it is too wide and vague. If you look at our NGC registry of foreign coin values, the Sheldon scale is used, meaning MS equals Uncirculated while XF and AU are 59 and under the magic number of 60. Buyer must then decide from pix, is it live or is it memorex!
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09/13/2018 1:53 pm
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 Posted 09/13/2018  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What if XF is for the obverse and UNC is the reverse of the same coin?
John1
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 Posted 09/13/2018  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John1, then according to grading protocols, both sides NUMERICAL grade is added and averaged out. Hence an XF-45 obverse paired with an MS-62 reverse would average would be an AU-53, and since the extreme difference in sides, would most likely get a "details" tag for whatever the reason the obverse got such a grade, as "harshly cleaned" or "Damaged".

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 Posted 09/13/2018  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was just one coin we are talking about I could see it possibly being XF-45 on the obverse and MS-62 on the reverse.
But the OP is saying he is seeing this designation for multiple coins and in different countries.
So I think they all can't be XF obverse and MS reverse.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know,I was just stirring the pot
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