1813 British Copper Company Half Penny Token

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IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36575 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 09:41 am Can anyone give me the correct catalog number for this piece? Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34396 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 10:06 am Not my area of expertise, but maybe Withers# 610 and David Essex #39? http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/W.0610.001.html I really like the die clash on your example! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36575 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 10:14 am Thanks Spence I think you found it. Just what I was looking for. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 11:11 am Beautiful example for sure! Report this Post to the Staff
NumisRob Bedrock of the Community United Kingdom 17894 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 12:09 pm Quote: Beautiful example for sure! - I usually see these in around Good to Fine. My Trade List: https://goccf.com/t/194596 My Wants List: https://goccf.com/t/191710 Report this Post to the Staff
yarm Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 2:11 pm That is a very cool die clash! It's a quibble but it looks like Withers-612 in Withers' text. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34396 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 2:30 pm Quote: It's a quibble but it looks like Withers-612 in Withers' text. @yarm, I'm sure that your opinion on the attribution should be relied upon over mine as I don't have the actual text but was comparing against pics of other, similar tokens on the interwebs. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Dorado Bedrock of the Community Canada 24885 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 4:50 pm Very nice example ! Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9862 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 9:36 pm Beautiful token! Impressive clash. Great die cracks. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 12:13 am Very nice! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36575 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 10:29 am yarm, can you say why you think it is Withers-612 and not 610? Report this Post to the Staff
yarm Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 09/21/2018 11:17 pm Withers lists a variety of differences between 610 and 612 on both obverse and reverse. Here's a comparison of the obverse of the OP's token and the W-610 at ABC coins. On Withers-612, the tip of the tail points to the first leg of the N, the H is clear of the mane and the first 1 of the date is in line with the front of the paw. If this sort of detail has any appeal, pick up the penny version of the British Copper token which has dozens of variations. You'll probably need a copy of Withers' book to make sense of it. Edited by yarm 09/22/2018 12:29 am Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36575 Posts	Posted 09/26/2018 10:12 am Thanks yarm, very obvious difference that is easily seen in your presentation. I love that One Penny and will have to find one of those. Report this Post to the Staff
scopru Pillar of the Community United States 5029 Posts	Posted 09/27/2018 07:58 am Great coin IGE. And good info yarm Report this Post to the Staff
taxisteve929 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 07/09/2020 7:04 pm I agree with the comment about the die clash....exceptional piece! Just in case someone else comes here as I did to find out the same answer, and has an obverse that is not all that clear because of wear and damage, I found the reverse differences really easy to see. Attached is a photo comparison of Britannia's trident where W-610 has all prongs touching or pointing to the leaf, while W-612 has only the 2 right prongs touching or pointing to the leaf, and the left prong very clear. Although there are other differences, this is VERY easy to see at a glance. Report this Post to the Staff
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