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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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My only purchase this month is the MC coin..... to keep my collection complete.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I am offended and outraged by the image of a dead King slaying a mythical beast.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
634 Posts |
But a patron saint could never offend...especially when its a masterpiece design...
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10/31/2018 3:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
665 Posts |
I had to jump on the Sovereign, it is a classic design and has stood the test of time. On a personal note, it is the Sovereign that brought me into the hobby when as a young lad, my grandfather gave me a UNC 1963 Sovereign (my birth year). He kept the coin until I was old enough to look after it and I have it to this day. The St George & the Dragon reverse designed by Benedetto Pistrucci (initials B.P. on the reverse) was introduced for final coinage of George III in 1817 and was set within a Garter. For George IV in 1821, the garter was removed and the reverse we see today was established. In 1825, the Sovereign reverse reverted to the crowned shield which survived into the reign of Queen Victoria until 1871 when the St George & the Dragon reverse was restored. It has remained as the default reverse until today with a few commemorative exceptions. Minting the Sovereign was expanded to the colonies of the empire with the addition of the Australian mints in Sydney (1871), Melbourne (1872) and Perth (1899). These can be identified by a reverse mint mark (S), (M) or (P) embossed on the ground below the horse's hoof and above the date. Canada's first Sovereign was in 1908 under the reign of Edward VII and it is of note that the mint mark was (C) for Canada, not (O) for Ottawa as was the convention from the Australian mints. Other mints to produce Sovereigns are Bombay, India - Mintmark (I) commencing in 1918 and Pretoria,South Africa - Mintmark (SA) commencing in 1923. If your Sovereign has no mintmark, it was minted in the UK. Canada ceased production of the Sovereign in 1919. Unlike the Australian Mints, the RCM never minted half Sovereigns. The reverse design was also used in larger scale on the George III Crown issued in 1818-1820, also within the garter and like the Sovereign, the garter was removed in 1821 for the coinage of George IV and ultimately replaced by a crowned shield in 1825. The St George Design was restored to the Crown under Queen Victoria in 1887 and remained through 1902. Only the UK issued the St George & the Dragon on the Crown and all issues since 1902 have been commemorative and not for circulation. This Sovereign issued by the mint will differ from the original in size - 30mm vs. 22mm, weight - 31.1g vs 8g, fineness .99999 vs .917 and few other aesthetic details such as denomination on the reverse, the word Canada on the Obverse and the edge serrations being interrupted though it is nice to see Edward VII on the obverse. Also the original cost one Pound... This one... well phew. |
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Canada
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Vonigohcr -
A most thoughtful and informative post is worthy of a meaningful reply -
Thanks for all that - indeed the Sovereign coins, gifted to you by your grandparent, is likely the most gifted coin design in the world. For many, both in the UK and in other places, especially past commonwealth colonies of the UK - it evolved into a custom / tradition - gifting a gold Sovereign.
Be it a birth, wedding or any special life milestone - I have seen them circulated throughout my life time within family and friends - so no doubt there is a special attachment and meaning for many when they come across that incredible design -
The question that comes to mind reading through your posting is WHY did Canada not do what Australia did-why not the annual half Sovereign coin as well within Canada?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@Vonigohcr Thank you for your informative post. I've had a couple of sovereigns gifted to me as well, and this design has always been one of my favourites. I've been holding off on RCM purchases lately, but couldn't resist this one. I also have a few gold proof sovereigns, so this coin is a must for my collection. |
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Canada
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The question that comes to mind reading through your posting is WHY did Canada not do what Australia did-why not the annual half Sovereign coin as well within Canada? I also thought, and still think, that this is great idea. |
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After seeing the design of the $20 WWI Armistice of Compiegne silver coin, first on ebay and then on the RCM site, I have to say that it appears to be a nicely-designed and attractive piece - a worthy commemorative for an important world event. I may have to order one even though it's not a 36mm silver dollar!  Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The Renewed Silver Dollar series is one of my favourite by the RCM, however, the choice for the design this year is disappointing, I think they missed the mark by not renewing the 1958 silver dollar. |
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Canada
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Look for the Renewed 1958 Silver Dollar to come out next year in 2019.... After all the RCM issue the Renewed 1939 Silver Dollar last year in 2017, not 2019. |
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 Canada
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Yes, this coin will sell out quickly. But I'm not sure if I will get this one. My last three in this series: 50 cent 2017, Silver Half-Dollar 2018, and Parliament 2017 haven't appreciated much. Additionally, the quality of these three coins is mediocre. But the wooden case is nice.
Three days in and no sign of a sell out. Like others before more said, a big disappointment. Not really interested in such a recent design, plus it is not really a silver dollar. It does not go with the rest of the renewed silver dollars since the silver dollar series ended in 1967. Only bought one to continue the series. If it was the 1958 design I would buy as many as I can. The slow sell out of the renewed dollar just point to a lack of demand for it as few are buying them to flip. Every renewed dollar since the 1st has declined in value on the secondary market. Especially since they increased the mintage to 4000 coins. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have $0 spending since June. Need to spend to keep my Silver status...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Literally seconds after posting my reply I just received an email from my rep.
First off, I thought that I was removed from his mailing list... apparently I was re-introduced...
Anyway, I find the 2018 Voyageur kilo coin's surface unattractive. The price is outrageous. Pass. Everything else is "pass".
But then.... there was the 2oz 1994 National War Memorial! Ok, just this one.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Full credit to RCM for putting out a great deal of variety in this November release- The polar bear coin design - I'm still processing that glacial design - Not too impressed by the black rhodium plated coin. Then there the red enamel 5 oz coin - need to see how it looks in hand before passing judgement on it. Will this be it for 2018? |
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The slow sell out of the renewed dollar just point to a lack of demand for it as few are buying them to flip. Every renewed dollar since the 1st has declined in value on the secondary market. Especially since they increased the mintage to 4000 coins.  Question - for those using the Lighthouse coin drawers (aka "coin box MB"), how do you display the 2oz renewed silver dollars? |
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